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Not versus market value, no. But they were bidding against themselves, so paying market value really wasn't necessary. It helps the Cards, but this is a victory for Scott Boras. I don't understand this line of reasoning. Do you think he suddenly would have signed for 5/75 or something? What was he going to do? Sign with an imaginary team? The 20+ mil stuff was a smokescreen. He wasn't worth that, and everyone knew it. The Cards had all the leverage and used little of it.

Not versus market value, no. But they were bidding against themselves, so paying market value really wasn't necessary. It helps the Cards, but this is a victory for Scott Boras.

There was a reason crew fans were upset when he left. Jack didn't just fall off the turnip truck.

It's ok. Illinois will be kicking the crap out of us in basketball in an hour (assuming your an Illinois fan) Yes, an Illinois fan raised in the Iowa City area. I'll be rooting for the Hawks in the most passive way possible.

I hate being torn between my desire to see the B10 do well and my searing hatred of all things Hawkeye.

I would have liked to see Lovie canned and the Bears get in on Shanahan, but having Turner fired is not a bad consolation prize. Put me in the camp that would like to see Weis get a shot as the new OC.

Five years ago, you could still believe in wins as a stat and simply be considered behind the times. But if you don't have some sort of evidence that you were in a coma, monastary, or frozen Encino Man style, we have to assume that you're choosing to remain ignorant rather than attempt intelligent conversation. Stop wasting our time. Sorry, Rob. But you and your confused ilk have yet to provide any stat that is more important than wins for a starting pitcher, especially one that is paid over $18 million a year. What's more important WHIP? :wink: Other stats have importance but not to the degree of wins. Your expectations seem quite low and indicative of your understanding. :rotfl:

It's just too bad it had to be the cowgirls, though. No kidding. Anybody but the cowboys Oh, well. I'm sure the inevitable and spectacular failure that will end Dallas' season will make up for this.

It's just too bad it had to be the cowgirls, though.

Well, [expletive].

Brees barely getting these passes off.

Whew.

Come on now Saints, make this happen. God, how I hate Dallas.

mwahahahahahahahaha

I don't have a huge philosophical problem with the DH. That said, I don't care for the statistical inconsistency between leagues it causes.

Its not the games Milton would have cost us by being a jerk, it's the games he might have cost us by not playing to his full potential. I am in no way defending the move, or Milton, but you have to take into consideration the fact that he DID NOT want to play in Chicago. He made that abundantly clear. so you're saying you think milton dogged it and didn't try to hit? I don't know if he thinks that, but I don't. It is possible that Milton's issues (or perceived issues) with the team and the city could have gotten into his head. And though it may come as a shock to some, players are not automatons. Milton is one of those players I could see being affected on the the field by off the field crap. Quite frankly, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if his slow start last year stemmed from some need to prove himself right away that caused him to press.

Man, people need to calm down. Not because it isn't a terrible move, which it most certainly is, but because this was destined to happen from the moment Hendry suspended Milton. It didn't have to be Silva, but it wasn't going to be good, at all. And the notion that there was any kind of chance that Bradley would be retained was always a false hope. Not because it isn't more sensical than the "we have to trade Bradley at all costs" silliness (which it clearly is), but because in situations like there was last year, the player is moved. That's just the way it goes. It is the reason Milton has been moved so many times; not because he needed to be, but because it is just what teams do with "problem" players. There is some sort of unwritten rule that "clubhouse cancers" need a "change of scenery" for the benefit of "team chemistry". You could have hoped that Hendry would have known better, but the shock and indignation is a bit much. This was coming. The "OMFG I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW BAD THIS IS, [expletive] [expletive] [expletive]!!" line is a bit theatrical. Yeah, it's really bad. But what indication did we have that anything otherwise was going to happen? That Hendry would buck trend and ignore the circus? None. Now you can legitimately be angry about how it was handled, which was a clinic of ineptitude. The suspension was a spectacularly stupid move, and along with the overt desperation is why Carlos Silva is now a Cub and not an actually productive player. If Milton hadn't been suspended, if he hadn't been publicly vilified and his trade made a desperate necessity, we probably could have moved him easily, and for a much better return. If nothing else, this has to be the nail in Hendry's coffin.

Coaches at Mizzou will have very little say. It's not like they have a Boeheim or Paterno who can tell that athletic department and president what to do. I would say that the Mizzou coaches are probably irrelevant as far as this goes. There are only a handful of coaches in all of college sports who could influence a decision like this at all.

There's still a chance Bay goes to the Mets. If that happens, the Red Sox would probably turn to Holliday. Either way Boras will milk it. If the Cards are bidding against themselves, they'll be doing do late into January, imo.

Just depends on how you land, I guess. I'm assuming your buddy didn't land on his head from a moving truck, though. My little brother was almost killed this way. The guy drove into a ditch, and my brother was flung from the back 30 feet, right between a telephone pole and a light pole that were no more than 6 feet apart. He landed on his shoulder/neck, but only had a broken collarbone and sprained neck. Lucky.

Never heard either one described that way. Always heard IU and Wisconsin, sometimes Ohio State. iowa is up there, ahead of illinois but probably not wisconsin. As someone who used to work at one of the biggest night clubs in IC (and what an awful place for an Illini fan to have to work, BTW), I can say you're right. But I can also say it doesn't hold a candle to Madison, which is the party town in the B10.

Do you mean the stretch of 40 years (1941-1981) wherein they won 2 total B10 titles (one of them shared)? I mean, other than the last decade, which was of course the only time they weren't consistently good? I see what you mean.

All of this ridiculousness started because you implied there would be something inherently unfair about putting Indiana and Purdue in the same hypothetical division. This isn't like dividing the ACC and putting Duke and Carolina in the same division, since Purdue is so far removed from most of that success that it simply doesn't hold much weight. The fact of the matter is that in modern history, Purdue has done nothing to distinguish itself from half of the B10 teams. I promise you that if you stop most B10 fans on the street and ask them to name the most prestigious B10 basketball schools, the overwhelming majority will omit Purdue. Your pre-historic B10 titles and NC make keep you warm at night, but it has little bearing on anything anymore.

I never said he has no choice. Of course he had a choice. What I said is that his lifestyle makes monogamy very difficult, and dramatically lowers the chance of a marriage remaining undamaged. Tiger took it way too far, but this sort of thing is hardly unique to him. I'd be willing to bet this didn't start out as Tiger planning to do it the way he did, but rather indulging too much when he realized he could. Trying to remain monogamous when you are in a position like Tiger is just not a wise move, unless you are a person of unusual fortitude, or your spouse travels with you (which, when you have children, isn't real workable, either).

Nova had an upset or two coming. They really haven't looked all that impressive.