For all the talk around here about the MLB playoffs being a crap shoot why isn't the NCAA tourney viewed the same way? Teams get hot at the right time and make a nice run. Unfortunatel,y Purdue has not had success in that manner. However, they have been able to endure and triumph through a very tough conference season 21 times. That cannot be dismissed just because of the lack of their tournament success. In some respects it's a crapshoot, but the best programs get to the Final Four and Title Game much more frequently than your Boilermakers. At some point it has to count for something. As for your next point, how do you have any clue how "very tough" the conference seasons were in 1920? Of your 21 Big Ten titles, 13 were won between the years of 1911-1940. I mean for many of those years, the radio didn't even exist. Yes I know that's part of the "historically the best" argument that Bum made, but you cannot honestly compare a Big Ten title in 1921 to one any year after 1960, when there were advancements like the shot clock, national recruiting, and television that completely revolutionized the level of play in college basketball. You can't win 62% of your titles 70 years or more ago, then have a couple of good recruting classes in the mid-80s and mid-90s while having a tournament history that pales in comparison to half of the conference, and then claim that Purdue is historically the 2nd best team in the Big Ten with a straight face. Exactly (again). Those 13 titles were won in an era where is was almost a different sport. You don't want to fall into a "what have you done for me lately" mindset, but when you are using titles won prior to advents that changed that dramatically changed the sport forever, you're not being fickle. There's a reason most records are qualified by being in the shot clock or "modern" era. Let's not forget how this debate began, which was bum saying that it would be unfair to put Indiana and Purdue in the same conference division, which was ludicrous at best.