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  1. It's been reported the Mets, the Mariners, the Rangers and the Red Sox are out. I could see the Yankees, just over the Padres and their silly asks for Juan Soto, jumping back in here. They'd have money and means.
  2. Yeah there are probably a lot of moving parts here. I had said in another post well back in the thread that what I expect is that once Ohtani signs that we'll hear he left money on the table. Not really because he did but because when you math out these contracts with options, performance bonuses, etc, one contract may seem to have a larger number, even if it's unlikely he'd have gotten that.
  3. I don't disagree with anything you suggest after the first sentence. The Chicago Cubs should be a perennial WS contender. They should spend money. But who are these other legitimate stars they're going to sign this year? There's Ohtani and then Yamamoto, and there's some belief that Yamamoto is more "all-star" quality than "superstar" quality (I'd be very interested in him regardless). If the hope is "sign Yamamoto now and then hope to sign Soto next year", why not just...sign Ohtani now? There' no guarantees we can sign Soto next year, no guarantees he'll hit free agency (as likely as it seems he should, there remains a non zero chance he resigns wherever he ends up). We're a finalist, by all reports for Ohtani. Let's ride this out. Just sign Ohtani. He's two superstars in one. There's no reason the Cubs shouldn't be trying to sign him based on every other word you posted. The idea that the Cubs would be better off spreading it around, I just don't agree. Get the unicorn. Obviously, if we miss on Ohtani and he wants to go elsewhere, then pivot. Go get Yamamoto. Go get Soto (either by trade or sign him next year). I'm not saying don't spend. I'm also saying...get Ohtani when you can.
  4. Yeah, I agree with the second part. My guess is that it's a combination of personal impatience, excitement, and nerves. I know I've caught myself getting on the "refresh twitter compulsively" team the last few days.
  5. The "he might sign before the WM's" wasn't really random people. It was coming from respected people in the industry. I wouldn't listen to this "dave" guy on twitter, but people like Morosi, and others, suggested it could get done pre-WM. Certainly not the first high prized guy to not sign before the meetings, and if he doesn't sign in the next few days, won't be the first to sign after the meetings. But I also can understand where people thought he might sign before, too.
  6. Within the week sounds good to me. That could be Monday, it could be next Saturday.
  7. Maybe. But let's look at it this way: let's suggest the Cubs are going to look to add one impactful contract and one major SP in this market (based on budget limits, luxury tax, etc). Glasnow works perfectly with Ohtani; he's not going to be break the bank via trade, and he'll be gone after year one. But if the Cubs lose out on Ohtani, perhaps it makes more sense to put the money into, say, Yamamoto, as the big add and then trade for like, Pete Alonso. Could they in theory trade for Glasnow and sign Yamamoto? Yeah, sure! But I think we know the Cubs probably wouldn't. The Cubs post-Ohtani could have wildly different paths in how they handle the offseason.
  8. I would consider Glasnow and Cease impactful, however, and I think both get moved in the next few days. Same with Sonny Gray who's already signed. I think it's important to point out, that there's a secondary market of good, impactful talent that will likely move and these players could be apart of "Ohtani Part 2" for whomever signs him. I understand that there are plenty of players, agents and teams who are going to use the Ohtani secondary market (teams who miss out) as leverage, but not everyone will as was your original message. I'm not trying to be pedantic, only to showcase, that I think a few more good, impactful talents will have new homes regardless of the Ohtani timeline.
  9. "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush". If you wait every offseason for the next year's star, you'll never have one. It's time for the Cubs to stop collecting a bunch of pretty good players. It's time for the Cubs to start acquiring legitimate stars. Not only is Ohtani a 2024 signing at DH, he represent a 2025 signing of a top-of-the-rotation SP when he returns from TJS. There's really no argument, to me, in not signing Ohtani. $500m is a lot of money. But Ohtani is both a $200m hitter and a $200m pitcher and he's only one roster spot and there's a significant revenue boost for whomever signs him. There's a reason he's getting these offers...he's legitimately worth it.
  10. I think most are, but clearly not every one. The Cardinals have inked three starting pitchers including Sonny Gray. I have a feeling the Rays may move Glasnow before Ohtani signs. Dylan Cease seems likely to be traded in the next few days as well. So while I think a good 90% of the market is sitting on Ohtani (just a rough estimate), I think a decent portion of the market will still move.
  11. It's all good! I'm an over clarifier and just like people to know where I stand.
  12. Yeah I agree. The more thought the better. And you're good my friend, I just didn't want anyone to think I'm mad at Shohei. Dude gets to make his choices. I just want it to be here like the rest of us.
  13. Well, I didn't suggest he was holding up the market, but potentially, bottlenecking teams. And not that he can't take his time, it's his choice, but that I assume he's someone who wants to win (per reports) and that may speed along any choice. I'm sure the Cubs have an offseason plan, like all teams that wildly differ from an Ohtani offseason and a non-Ohtani offseason. My *guess* was it would he done in less time than Levine suggested because Ohtani would like to see the team he chose execute the plan they seemingly put forth. I don't want anyone to think Im the bad guy who's somehow mad that he's "holding up the market". That's pretty unfair.
  14. Oh, I don't think he owes me anything. I just don't think this is going to take another week, either. It was rumored he may have decided before the WMs, and while that seems unlikely, this doesn't appear to be on the "Scott Boras wait the entire market out" plan (that feels more like Bellinger's game plan). He's apparently down to the finalists coming to visit him today. This feels end-gamey.
  15. Either is fine, IMO. I can find knocks on both, and could see where the Rays could want both.
  16. Per Levine: Javier Asad and Hayden Wesneski are names being considered by the Rays for Glasnow.
  17. Andy Frasco and the United Nations! Pretty excited. But will also fully expect the Ohtani news and some other big things to happen, forcing me to miss it. As well, I'm the driver on the way back home, which will add another hour to my delay of being upset or excited haha.
  18. I've got tickets to a concert at 8pm est. I predict it breaks between 8-10pm est just to piss me off.
  19. Eh, I bet he does though to a degree. The Dodgers, the Cubs and the Blue Jays all have holes to fix. The Dodgers need multiple SPs. The Cubs need a SP and probably another bat. The Blue Jays need a 3b and maybe an OFer. If Ohtani's goal is a winning team, it probably does matter to him if these things are being held up. All three of these teams likely approach the 2nd steps differently based on Ohtani's signing on or not and may not be able to take the second steps until they know his plans. It comes back to the things he wants out of this. Those things we don't really know. But if he wants to win, making a snappier choice will likely aid in that teams ability to finish their offseason.
  20. I can't imagine it'll take that long. Feels like there will be such a bottleneck on a few teams here that it'll have to get done in the next 2-4 days.
  21. Maybe. But it could also be personal preference. Sometimes you can sell your vision as well as you can, but it just isn't their vision. It may not be a lack of selling your team, but just that in the end, Ohtani preferred something else. Like, for whatever reason, he may just like Toronto or San Francisco more. It might have little to do with your pitch.
  22. I think every one of the final 4 teams will be prepared to offer him blow him away money, though. That's what I'm saying. I don't think there's going to be some contract that's like $80m more than another. A few million here or there just being different in terms of structuring? Maybe. But I have a feeling these teams are in "blank check" territory for the most part. There comes a point where you're in for a penny in for a pound here because the numbers are so large. Truly, the difference between $550 and $600m over 10 years is just a few million per season, for example. $5m a season might mean something for a guy like Jordan Montogmery where you say "$25m per season, that's the max we can do", but for Shohei? I think the math, just maths different. Maybe I'm way off here, but I have a feeling you don't make it this far, with this free agent if you're not going as high as everyone else essentially.
  23. Pure guess but I think every team who makes this "final pitch" list, the teams flying out to LA, will be in the general ballpark when it comes to money. Regardless of where he signs, I bet we hear how he "left money" on the table or signed the not largest contract. That seems to be pretty popular reporting. Lots of it is just how you define the contract and the "money" (AAV, actual cash, length, etc).
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