UMFan83

Not sure if this is better here or in the general baseball thread but BA introduced some new defensive metrics today and they're quite interesting. The article linked here is free: They have Dansby as the 2nd best defensive SS last season, but his range wasn't great (as I believe was suspected before this). His ability to make outs on plays within his range was exceptional though. Nico was a bit farther below but in the top 10.

I got the show instantly but it took me a second to make the connection

Pretty cool stat about Sampson:

horsefeathers give me Keenan Allen ASAP

Yeah, Colts are an ideal trade partner. It makes so much sense. Division foe that needs a QB is sitting at 2. Years of vet QBs who haven't worked out. Likely going with an offensive coach (thinking Eagles OC gets the job, hence why no hire yet). They really need an identity as a franchise. And they have had good luck (pun intended) with drafting QBs at #1. Plus from the Bears perspective, they could be top 10 bad again next year. Also, as you said, if the Bears really like Carter and/or Anderson it gives them a shot to get either with a trade back. That being said, I think Carolina has close to the same level of desperation. Even down to a division foe potentially getting the QB they want as Tampa and Atlanta could trade up as well (NO has no 1st). Less obvious path to their division foe getting their guy, but also less obvious path to actually sit still and get their guy than the Colts. And if moving down from 1 to 9, you're talking potentially getting an absolute mint for the pick. Poles said he wants value, and if he's not sold on the top guys in this draft, this could be a more desirable trade. I've thought about this and wondering how much less Poles might take to stay at 4 with Indy versus trading further down. Similar idea to Houston. The only reason I wondered this is because of teams not being in love enough with a clear top QB to pay up for the trade. But, as they say, it just takes one, so they'll likely be able to make some kind of trade. If they can get firsts in 24 and 25 with some other picks I think you just have to do it. Carter and Anderson are still prospects who have to pan out and I don't think you can give up that opportunity for either of them. I'm not convinced that Houston is going to make a play for #1 overall unless they have absolute conviction in one of the QBs and are concerned another team is going to take them at #1. But there doesn't seem to be a consensus between Young and Stroud (and some Levis chatter), so I don't think they'd hate staying at 2 and taking the 2nd guy rather than giving up significant assets to move up a spot. We'll see. I'm torn between the idea of taking less to only move down to 4 and picking an Anderson/Carter, and trading down a little farther for more and going after OT or WR. I mentioned this before but I really don't hate the idea of taking the top WR and pushing Claypool and Mooney down one spot to have an actual strong WR group for Fields. FA decisions might push me in one way or the other. The idea of trading down twice and getting a haul seems logical on the surface but I'll believe it when I see it. Just seems too good to be true.

Without actually studying the stats I would say he’s not even top 5. Definite HOFer but peak was too short. Maybe the fantasy football GOAT RB

Not a terrible trade but I can totally see Luka leaving after Kyrie implodes in a year or two

Sure know how to pick ‘em don’t I? hey, look, the blind squirrel found a nut! Weird ass team lol

I don't hate a scenario that forces us into a position to draft the best WR available. To be clear its not my preference and obviously the Bears need multiple playmakers on the DLine and OLine, but I keep thinking about the Bengals WR trio of Chase, Higgins and Boyd with a solid TE option and meh line and then think about how good the Bears projected WRs would be if everyone slid down a spot...Chase as a Z wide receiver and Mooney in the slot with a true X in JSN or Reed or whoever the best WR is projected to be. I'd prefer a no doubt game changing pass rusher like Anderson, but if we can get the top WR and pick up a 2nd plus 2 more first round picks, I'd consider it.

Who TF was positing that he became the guy yesterday? Greg Gabriel? I don't know if it was Gabriel or someone else, but there was a tweet going around that made it seem like the Bears had decided recently to keep Fields and not draft a QB

Assuming he assessed his options, realized he wasn't getting a MLB deal and came crawling back to the Cubs?

Do you mean 2024 1st? I wouldn't value a 1st round pick 2 years from now very much at all. But if you mean 2024 1st round pick, it's tougher. In general, I'd prefer the proverbial "bird in the hand" that is the current year's pick (high 2nd). But when you compare potential draft classes, next year probably looks better. I'd still take the current year pick, but it's much closer. I did mean 2025. I'd definitely prefer a 2024 1st over a high 2023 2nd. It's closer and its probably a little easier to project a team 1 year out rather than 2 years out. I'm just thinking about trades where its like 2023 1st, 2024 1st, 2025 1st vs. 2023 1st, 2023 2nd, 2024 1st. It would be awesome to have multiple first round picks the next 2 seasons, but having a high 2nd now helps immediately.

Random question. Taken completely in isolation what would you find more value in when considering trades for 1.1 overall: a high 2nd round pick this year (lets say top 5) or a 1st round pick in 2025? If it matters pretend that the team is a run of the mill NFL club in terms of competence, so there's no way to know if it will be a higher 1st or a lower 1st in 2 years.

Brady Hoke’s brother? PASS

Seems crazy to not even have Davis in the top 7 Cubs prospects

Sure know how to pick ‘em don’t I?

Everton makes absolutely no moves to bring in players during the window while selling off one of their best players. They sit in 19th and have the most difficult remaining schedule in the Premier League. They seemed resigned to their fate...they even hired a coach who's most notable accomplishment is getting Burnley promoted twice. I follow Everton because I committed to like 15 years ago and in those 15 years they've given me almost no reason to continue to root for them....might be looking for a new team soon, anyone want to recruit me?

Good, now everyone can shut up about Harbaugh still being in the mix.

I haven't had a chance to dig through the numbers yet, but this redditor put together a ridiculous amount of data about Fields both last year and this year. Just skimming it, there is a ton of interesting info here.

Last time #1 was traded it happened 2 weeks before the draft. The 49ers trade to #3 happened in like March. Yeah its possible it doesn't happen until draft day but it seems much more likely that a trade is made anytime between now and a few days before the draft. A trade like this isn't a minor trade, it will radically alter team's draft plans, so the preference is to do it sooner.

I understand where you are coming from but I don't think the Bears have the luxury of using draft capital on a QB too many other holes to fill that are more likely to impact the team next year. Maybe a 7th if one makes sense or UDFA

at least he got out of the Chicago winter and went some place warmer

Great hockey player, complete piece of horsefeathers person