Abrams has never been Illinois's star player. He's just a steady hand at the point. Both ORtg and DRtg are quite dependent on your teammates. Looking at them in a vacuum doesn't show you much of anything You cite Nunn(questionable) and Abrams(he didn't develop him enough?) What of Egwu, Rice, Hill, and Morgan? And yes, this is where Derwood chimes in and says well they must have won a bunch of national titles with all that improvement!! No, shut up Derwood. Illinois's biggest problem under Groce has been a lack of (healthy) talent, first from the hilariously bare cupboard Weber left, followed by some high profile misses on recruiting.