I don't get why you guys are so caught up in things like this. Some players/pitchers aren't championed in the minors and can develop into really good players in the majors. It happens quite often actually. Because it never seems to happen for us. Every once in a while we see some irrelevant dude like Donnie Murphy play out of his mind for a few months, but almost never do our marginal players develop legit, solid careers, which is what consistently happens in St. Louis. Jake Arietta went from god awful to one of the top 5-10 pitchers in baseball. 5th round draft pick and the #4 prospect for Baltimore two years in a row in what was, at the time, a really good farm system. He just really figured it out with the Cubs, is all. Sure, very few probably thought he'd be this good, but he was never unknown or devoid of talent.