Thank you. You think a guy making a couple million bucks a year might be able to take a little responsiblity. I'm all for a lifetime ban right off the bat. The reprocutions of steriods haven't been fully realized yet in my opinion. All the stories of kids taking steriods....... Hank Aaron, Babe Ruth, and all the other stars that played with talent alone, yet being passed by cheaters in the record books........ My stack of Sammy, Barry, Raffy, and McGuire rookies which are now worthless......... Yeah, lets blame congress for being to hard on our heroes :roll: I don't see what you people have against a list making players aware of what they can take and what they can't. Trust me, this isn't just "Don't take anabolic steroids." There are plenty of things in suppliments and stuff that they could get busted for if they're not careful. I think baseball would be wise to at least inform all thier players in thier native tounge on paper of what banned substances are found in what. That way there is no excuse whatsoever. It reduces the amount of "Oh, well I didn't know that a banned substance was in this over-the-counter suppliment I took!" stories that we hear. And as to your second point..... If you have a hornets nest outside of your home, do you spray it with hornet killer or call an exterminator, or do you blow up your house? Both get rid of your hornet problem, but only one makes sense. I don't have a problem with making a list, but that isn't the solution. Zero Tolerance, period. Let's say a buddy of yours feeds you some "magic" brownies because he thought it'd be funny. If your employer drug tests you and you fail, will they say "Oh!! You didn't know you were taking it?, so don't worry about it". Professional athletes should be held to the same standard as the fans that pay their salaries. I understand your point and agree that players need to know what they can or can't take. If they feel the need to take a performance enhancing drug, it is the PLAYERS responsibility to make sure it is legal. And you wouldn't get a lifetime ban. Not even close. You'll likely take a salary knock if you're white collar, maybe hurt your promotion chances, etc, but you won't be unemployed forever. Your argument gets an F I think you should look in your 8 ball again. What career field is it exactly that will over look a drug test? McDonalds? Burger King? I'm sure there are companies out there that would over look it, but from my experience, Zero Tolerance means Zero Tolerance. I know of a few professions that overlook drug abuse. they ultimately use a "dont ask, dont tell" policy. I am in such a profession. I dont know if it is bad or good, but I do believe it is a bad policy for ATHLETES to rely on performance enhancers because of what it says to youth. But witch hunts scare me, and this whole congressional hearing cr#@ wreaks of it. How many of these politicians are truly LEGIT? very few. pot calling the kettle black, it wreaks. I REALLY support MLB's decision to police itself, and if Selig isnt up to the task, he needs to be removed. BUT CONGRESS? give me an f-in break.