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I'd rather keep Cedeno than acquire Aybar, as I don't see a lot of difference between the two. Blanton would be nice, but I don't think our OBP-depleted lineup can afford to lose Murton. If minor league numbers mean anything, Aybar will be the superior offensive player. Cedeno: .265/.316/.376/.692 (1924 AB) Aybar: .311/.356/.454/.810 (2216 AB) Aybar got help from the Texas League, California League and the mountain PCL division. Arkansas is +40% HRs relative to the TL. Salt Lake is about +15% HRs relative to the PCL. Rancho is about league average for the Cali which is a heckuva lot higher than the FSL average. Aybar's entire minor league career was at the highest offensive league in the level, and most of the time in one of the highest parks in that league. His minor league numbers have been heavily aided at every stop. Cedeno's are at the opposite end most of the time. Aybar's PECOTA .263/.306/.382 Ronny's PECOTA .265/.302/.388 Pretty damn close. What is it that people like about Aybar then? Not trying to start anything, I'm just curious. Aybar hit very well in the minors year in and year out. Ronny really only became a prospect 2 years ago. Edit: Their career minor league lines: Aybar- .311/.356/.454/.810 Cedeno- .265/.316/.376/.692 No offense, but your post showed you did not read what you quoted at all. :D Am I missing something? :? A) You edited to add career minor league lines, when they were already in the initial post B)Meph explained Aybar's league and park effects. In response to the question of why people like Aybar, I agree with Meph, people love his tools, especially his defense. As well as the fact that most people don't take into consideration league/park effects. D'oh. I feel dumb

I'd rather keep Cedeno than acquire Aybar, as I don't see a lot of difference between the two. Blanton would be nice, but I don't think our OBP-depleted lineup can afford to lose Murton. If minor league numbers mean anything, Aybar will be the superior offensive player. Cedeno: .265/.316/.376/.692 (1924 AB) Aybar: .311/.356/.454/.810 (2216 AB) Aybar got help from the Texas League, California League and the mountain PCL division. Arkansas is +40% HRs relative to the TL. Salt Lake is about +15% HRs relative to the PCL. Rancho is about league average for the Cali which is a heckuva lot higher than the FSL average. Aybar's entire minor league career was at the highest offensive league in the level, and most of the time in one of the highest parks in that league. His minor league numbers have been heavily aided at every stop. Cedeno's are at the opposite end most of the time. Aybar's PECOTA .263/.306/.382 Ronny's PECOTA .265/.302/.388 Pretty damn close. What is it that people like about Aybar then? Not trying to start anything, I'm just curious. Aybar hit very well in the minors year in and year out. Ronny really only became a prospect 2 years ago. Edit: Their career minor league lines: Aybar- .311/.356/.454/.810 Cedeno- .265/.316/.376/.692 No offense, but your post showed you did not read what you quoted at all. :D Am I missing something? :?

Gotta go with Badger

I'd rather keep Cedeno than acquire Aybar, as I don't see a lot of difference between the two. Blanton would be nice, but I don't think our OBP-depleted lineup can afford to lose Murton. If minor league numbers mean anything, Aybar will be the superior offensive player. Cedeno: .265/.316/.376/.692 (1924 AB) Aybar: .311/.356/.454/.810 (2216 AB) Aybar got help from the Texas League, California League and the mountain PCL division. Arkansas is +40% HRs relative to the TL. Salt Lake is about +15% HRs relative to the PCL. Rancho is about league average for the Cali which is a heckuva lot higher than the FSL average. Aybar's entire minor league career was at the highest offensive league in the level, and most of the time in one of the highest parks in that league. His minor league numbers have been heavily aided at every stop. Cedeno's are at the opposite end most of the time. Aybar's PECOTA .263/.306/.382 Ronny's PECOTA .265/.302/.388 Pretty damn close. What is it that people like about Aybar then? Not trying to start anything, I'm just curious. Aybar hit very well in the minors year in and year out. Ronny really only became a prospect 2 years ago. Edit: Their career minor league lines: Aybar- .311/.356/.454/.810 Cedeno- .265/.316/.376/.692

For those who care:

-Happy to be in the majors -Doesn't mind playing multiple positions -Likes Pinniella's intenisty and respects him -thought they should have won a few more games -said Lansing was favorite minor league city -talked about Pie, during a rainout, pretending to swim in a cooler Missed some if it, but those seem like the highlights of what I saw

Right now!

bumping this up

#-o

I don't know if I'd do any of those trades. Maybe I'd go for Aybar, but we don't need anymore middle relievers, and as much as I still love Jon Lieber, he's well past his prime. Also, I do not wanna trade Murton, period.

You just beat me to it, but I'll post Rotoworld's take: This is just terrible. The Phillies are dumb.

](*,) It's one thing to be agressive, and another to be stupid.

yeah, that's a lineup built around toughness. pretty surprised that they're dressing george parros AND brad may AND travis moen. that's odd for the playoffs. i like that lemaire isn't backing down and is dressing boogie man though. Yeah, we got some heavy hitters and big fighters. I guess Carlyle wants to play very physical hockey through these playoffs and it's showing. What May did was not being physical it was pure thuggery. What he did is pure cowardly. It's funny how they never tried there cheap shots while the Boogey man was on the ice.. I didn't actually see it. What did he do?

yeah, that's a lineup built around toughness. pretty surprised that they're dressing george parros AND brad may AND travis moen. that's odd for the playoffs. i like that lemaire isn't backing down and is dressing boogie man though. Yeah, we got some heavy hitters and big fighters. I guess Carlyle wants to play very physical hockey through these playoffs and it's showing.

If by worst you mean BEST! :P No, it's bad. I actually like a lot of hair metal. A couple years back I burned a 2 vol. hair metal compilation that I listened to quite a lot but Cherry Pie just grated and I kept skipping past it. It was the only song that annoyed me enough to consistently skip it. Even as kitsch it's hard to stomach. I don't know.. I still find it to be entertaining every now and then. I wouldn't ever listen to it daily, it's like Nirvana. If it comes on on the radio, I'll listen to it, but if it's on my playlist, I'm gonna skip over it. Comparing Nirvana to the likes of Warrant? Harsh. Yeah, definitely not a big fan of Nirvana. I have some of their stuff, but I can really only listen to them when they come on the radio. Nirvana>>>>>>>>>>Warrant

Ronny = AAAA player at its finest

He's too fragile. The Cubs have enough pitchers with injury histories. Agreed

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Crap, looks like the Ducks are gonna lose.

I'd do it, but is there any truth to this rumor? Also, we'd have to get something of value, b/c I believe Ohman can still be decent.

Funny stuff

Happ Bday Bruce! We appreciate all your updates and input.

Alright, finally, a K

Cotts warming up

Base hit