didn't say I wanted maddon fired. didn't say that matheny was a genius. no histrionics. you don't agree that matheny had a better game than maddon? I believe your exact words were "matheny running circles around maddon". Maybe you see that was hyperbole now (going to "had a better game"), but what you said was wrong. Matheny had a pitcher the Cubs couldn't hit. and the moves he made worked better than the ones maddon made (or didn't make). don't get why this is such a controversial position to take. if you'd rather have me say "maddon sucked tonight" and leave matheny out of it, that's fine. obviously lackey, the cubs hitters and an embarrassingly bad home plate umpire were the reasons the cubs lost, but maddon was bad.