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two hits and a sb for hairston.

only one out in the air so far for hill. at least one more k (missed the third out cheering for patterson running around the bases) in a perfect fourth for hill.

3 ip, 3 hits, 5 k's, 1 er so far for hill. run scored in the third on three straight ground ball singles. he also got two ground ball outs that inning, so all the ground balls are a pleasant change for him.

hill throwing a lot of fastballs so far. announcer says he's spotting them very well. hill goes to a three ball count for the first time tonight before giving up his first hit.

hill w/ 4 k's through two hitless innings for the i-cubs.

He has the stuff to be a good starter (better than Jerome Williams). Just because he hasn't started in the big leagues doesn't mean he can't in the future, in fact I (and others like raw and UK) would like to see him start in the big leagues. Even if his role in the big leagues will be as a reliever, as a minor league starter, he'll get more innings under his belt and more practice. He's been starting all year at AAA and been doing a good job too: 3.02 ERA, .235 BAA, 48 K but 25 BB in 53.2 IP. i'm also a fan of welly as a starter. the i-cubs website has hill as the starter tomorrow.

How true is that! They have been terrible. hahahah i love the quote from that scout. What does the lack of heart have to do with anything? I'd guess that the reason they walk guys and give up hits is because they suck. it's the same crap people say about patterson and wood. patterson sucks because he doesn't want to be good, and wood gets hurt a lot because he doesn't want to stay healthy.

That sounds like the most feasible plan, minus #2. I don't think Ryan is going anywhere. And I'd like the bench to be much different. I'd replace Hollandsworth with an OBP machine like Mark Sweeney or Branyan. I'd let Neifi go, so there's no temptation to play him if Lugo or Walker goes down. I'd try to replace him with a guy that can play several positions WELL and take a walk, like Frank Menechino, Chris Gomez, or Marco Scutaro. i've mentioned branyan in other threads. he'd be a good lh complement to lee at 1b, plus he gives you the backup 3b which seems to be the role keeping macias on the team. and the cubs have just flat out lacked the guy that you can bring off the bench down by one with two outs in the 9th inning. i always like having an all or nothing type slugger (ie glenallen hill) to keep stashed away on the bench. hollandsworth's not that guy, and i've seen enough of him all together.

Contrary to the hate, these two are ones that have played up to expectations or exceeded expectations this year. They are NOT the problem with this team. So sucky players are only a problem if their suckiness is unexpected? Actually, they don't suck. Yes, on this board they suck, but in reality, they don't. Which reality? the one where getting on base 30% of the time is good.

i think the fact that people still find reasons to rag on him after he has a good game says something about some people and their dislike for patterson.

i wonder if some of the same people who claim that hill is too old are also the same people who fawn over eric patterson, who is 22 playing in low A. not saying that i don't like patterson a lot, but enough w/ the 'hill is too old' stuff already.

I would hope that is in the past as is Zambrano's hitting Edmonds 2 times. It has been a long time since the Cubs and Cardinals had a heated moment and I hope it stays that way. Zambrano deserved what he got as far as the ejection, but he had no reason to throw at Edmonds, but if I was a Cards fan I'd want one of my pitchers to throw at Z. The Cubs deserve their fair of the blame as well in the past, right now, Morris does. I never understood why a pitcher would throw at a hitter that wasn't a pitcher, despite being guilty of it myself. I hope the Cubs do something to bring back some life, it if takes putting a couple of Cards on the ground, so be it. If the standings don't motivate the Cubs, they have to find a way to do it. I would rather they win, which they did last year, while Z and Hawkins blew up. yeah, that's why the cubs lost. :roll: i sometimes forget how much i hate the cardinals...until they have a series with the cubs and all their fans come out of the woodwork.

so shawn estes gets six months of slack while rich hill gets 4 1/3 innings. good to know.

thank goodness. i'd hate to see hill get an extended look to see if he can take a rotation spot in '06. we need rusch out there since he's the cornerstone of the franchise...plus we'll be battling for fifth place in the central by then.

the cubs and the cardinals have the same team BA. the cubs actually have more hits (1065-1052) than the cards. yet the cards have 82 more runs on the season. hmm...i wonder what the difference is? i'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the cubs are LAST (by a fairly large margin, actually) in walks. nothing at all.

hilarious...two guys w/ .300ish obp hitting 1-2.

oh that matt morris and his sly wit! umm....no. grudz sounds a little bitter. i'll take that bet.

hopefully this prevents baker from pitching fox...er williamson for the 19th day in a row. or from seeing just how much kerry wood's arm can take.

so let's find out! geesh, what is wrong with that guy????

get ready...you will be hearing it if brownlie comes up and doesn't throw four straight shut outs. hope you can 'take it'!

you're right. hill really put a damper on the cubs postseason hopes today. they were riding a hell of a winning streak until this afternoon. plus, rusch has been AWESOME lately! So let him get drilled again?? You think that's good for his confidence? You're right though. I did sell his first 2 starts short. That plate of crow must not be going down well. :wink: wow, what a dick. so what is this about? do you think you're some kind of baseball whiz because you predicted occasional problems for a 25 year old who started the season in single A? wow, any more bold predictions for us, nostradamus? for all you people in the 'told you so' business, why don't you make a prediction yourself once in a while instead of just sitting back and waiting for people to be 'wrong' so you can give them a sly little wink about how you were soooooooooooo right, but how it's ok because not everyone can be as smart as you. let's hear a list of ten prospects that you think are going to pan out, and then i'll get back to you four starts into their major league career. take your time...i'll wait. Omg. Settle down kid. Your first post in this thread today was a little hostile. If you're going to dish it out, be ready to take it as well. I'll leave it at that and disregard what you just wrote. you don't have to disregard it. and don't call me 'kid'. and i can 'take it' just fine. i'm just sitting here patiently waiting for your list of prospects. judging by the fact that you've made 7 posts in the minor league forum i'm sure you know quite a bit about prospects, and i'm sure you knew darn well that hill would suck in his first shot at the bigs since i'll bet you've been following him for years.

you're right. that kind of stuff is totally unnecessary.

i wouldn't be too upset if they sent him down. but at this point, you might as well see if he has what it takes to compete for a spot in the rotation next year. sending him down to insert rusch into the rotation is pretty pointless.

you're right. hill really put a damper on the cubs postseason hopes today. they were riding a hell of a winning streak until this afternoon. plus, rusch has been AWESOME lately! So let him get drilled again?? You think that's good for his confidence? You're right though. I did sell his first 2 starts short. That plate of crow must not be going down well. :wink: wow, what a dick. so what is this about? do you think you're some kind of baseball whiz because you predicted occasional problems for a 25 year old who started the season in single A? wow, any more bold predictions for us, nostradamus? for all you people in the 'told you so' business, why don't you make a prediction yourself once in a while instead of just sitting back and waiting for people to be 'wrong' so you can give them a sly little wink about how you were soooooooooooo right, but how it's ok because not everyone can be as smart as you. let's hear a list of ten prospects that you think are going to pan out, and then i'll get back to you four starts into their major league career. take your time...i'll wait.