Well, a fact is a fact. Hes still not proven at the major level. Whether he has had a chance isnt the point. If we are trying to win this year, we shouldnt be audiontioning Hill. Just pitch Mitre. Also, look at the number of homeruns he has given up at every single level hes pitched at. Do you really want that at wrigley field? by your reasoning, how is he ever going to get 'proven' at the major league level? in fact, how did mitre become proven? there will always be a guy w/ more experience than a rookie...how's he ever supposed to get out there if he is continually passed up for whoever has more innings than him? and i don't know why everyone is so awestruck by what mitre has done. look at his numbers...it's not like they're passing up a dominant pitcher in favor of one that sucks. if mitre's better, the difference is minimal. and i think most people would agree that hill has a higher ceiling. w/ regard to alou...hill better throw him hooks all night. don't even try to sneak that cutter in on him, because if he doesn't get it in far enough, it's going onto the street. from watching hill's last AAA start, it was evident that if he can't throw his curve for strikes, the opposition just sits on his fb. since he knew his hook wasn't working, he went to the cutter occasionally, but he wasn't getting it far enough in on righties...and they hit him hard. so, for me, it all starts w/ whether he can get his curve over...or at least make it look like it's going to be a strike so he can get some swings off it. go rich!