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if we can play fast and loose with the concept of "every" then I'd say scandal. my wife netflixed it and I have seen a lot of it, but she'd watch without me when I had softball or something and when I'd get back up I could tell I didn't miss a thing and it was just god awful terribleness. we also watched quite bit of melrose place in college

So college football. That's the problem. Being a football player gave him a 2nd chance most people would not get. It's not like law enforcement decided on their own not to do much, they did so because of college football and all the scumbaggery that surrounds it. People who have an issue with those that still bring up this "2 year old issue" completely ignore the fact that college football is what allowed him to skate.

fit that one on your chest glory boy "Goldy Boy" to you chuuuuump [emoji12] I was talking to aj mccarron

Gaudy died in the street, run over by a streetcar and penniless. And he created a lot more then some old junky 1/2 finished shrine to a cult that wanted nothing to do with him fit that one on your chest glory boy

fastball down the middle... https://youtu.be/NQhwNtY3N2k

And I've said nothing of barbecuing them for missing the playoffs. Improvement is what they need and what should be expected. There is no reason this team can't be in the wild card hunt, rookie QB or no. They should be able to put out a winning team next year. If they do well on paper this offseason but still lose 10 games next year, then they probably didn't actually do well this offseason.

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don't get me wrong, everybody with a tattoo is a moron and probably a terrible person, but I don't have a problem with my QB being both of those things if he's good

Stop pretending this is baseball and akin to the Cubs situation. I'm not asking for Pace's head. I'm fine with what he's done so far. I see signs of improvement. But it's time to move beyond signs and actually see some results. If you call expecting improvement by year 3 short-term thinking I can't wait to hear what you'd like to see out of the Trump administration.

This is tangential to the conversation but Angelo's 2003 (which is amazing because of how bad - or meh if you want to give some bonus points for Rex's 2006 contribution - the first round was) and 2004 drafts say hello. I feel great about the 2016 draft but those were some really good drafts that led to some long careers here and/or played a big role in a conference championship (almost two of them). Oh yeah, Angelo had some homeruns that built that 2005/2006 team. The drafting went to crap once they started winning and Lovie got more input, which is pretty much the inevitable conclusion to most situations where head coaches have success.

You can disagree all you want, you're wrong. Baseball draftees aren't expected to contribute for 2-6 years. 1st and 2nd round NFL draftees should be starting their first year and significant contributors by years 2 and 3. Building a football team is nothing like building a baseball team. Nothing. Baseball is a collection of individual performers. Football requires coaching and players playing together all over the field. We've heard the cliche about building through the draft a million times, and while it is true, it is also the case that there is nothing wrong with building through free agency at the same time. Good teams fill spots with free agents. Not everybody drafts their QB, RB, WR, OL, DE, LB, DB across the board. Barely any of them do. Realistically you need to draft well and sign good free agents if you want to succeed in the NFL, and there is no reason why it would take a good front office more than 3 years to build a good team with a combination of those things. Pace did have a good 2016 draft, but 2015 also counts. You can't just point out the good he's done and say all is well. If they can't show real progress in 2017 what is supposed to lead us to have faith that Pace is doing a good job?

But what are the chances they draft a 1st round QB who plays and looks good but still put out a 6 win team? How and why would that happen? Now take that scenario, where this hypothetical 1st round QB plays well but the team does poorly and Pace gets the opportunity to overhaul the coaching staff one last time. You got yourself a QB that somehow played well but the team stunk and he has to start all over with a new system, a new head coach who may not be enamored with the guy and that coach will be given time to make the team better along with the freedom to decide who the starting QB will be in 2018. You are asking for a mess. I'm not saying they have to win 9. I am saying there is no good reason why they can't.

I kind of like the concept of Trubisky, but the lack of playing time is a real concern, especially as it pertains to this NFL readiness. A QB can get ruined with bad coaching and being thrown into a bad situation. I also hate bringing in any other rumored veteran QB, with the possible exception of Taylor.

Dak played twice as much in college, has a better offensive line, better receivers and better running back than Trubisky would theoretically have with the Bears.

I'm not saying they're doing that, I'm saying you're doing that. Focus on next year, be cool with keeping Jay around and not finding that great QB. You'll be stuck in the mud forever. This is year 3 you goober. This isn't the third quarter of them having control. You are acting as if they just stepped into the job and should be given a lot of leeway. They've been around for a long time, the results have gotten worse under their watch and they need to show improvement now.

Bad ordering of my words there. I mean I don't know a ton about McCarron, so want to learn more before offering a full opinion. But character/leadership is big for QBs and having a big dumb chest tattoo could speak to the kind of guy he is. I slipped that line in there at the end as sort of a joke though, and it really doesn't play huge into my evaluation. But I typed a lot of stuff there. Was there anything else that jumped out? ridiculous

I'm saying I don't care if they get to the 9-10 win territory next year. And if they don't, if they draft a QB, play him for half the season and end up with 6 wins or something and the QB looks good for the future that's fine for me. If they go defense in the first, play Cutler another year, and end up with 9-10 wins but have no QB for the future I think that's a worse position. So basically, I think the fans ought to be taking a long term view. The "you've done a bad job building a team" if it takes more than 3 years to get to winning is dumb. There is pretty much just Kyle Long as a holdover from pre-Pace, and they've got no QB. If you want to say that it's a really bad job building a team if they don't create an entire playoff team with 3 drafts and free agency then I think you've got some high expectations. This is like a public company, where you can run it looking just at the next quarter to appease the shareholders and keep your job, or you can look at the long term view. A lot of times you exchange mediocre for the short and long term for good in the long term. If they get a QB that can win for the long term then you've basically got something the Bears have never had, and set up to be really good when the rest of the team is ready. This would be my preferred route. This is a ridiculous assertion. This isn't at all like a public company where you look quarter to quarter, if it were this front office would have been ousted long ago. You are blinded by the Cubs situation. Football isn't baseball. It doesn't take 6 years to build a team.

What do you mean by "really good"? They need to get significantly better, bu I don't see anybody calling for 12-4 or bust. If it takes you more than 3 seasons to make a team go from 5 win territory to 9-10 win territory, you've done a really bad job of building a team. There's no reason why this team can't contend for a wild card next year, and going by the looks of this incredibly mediocre division, they could host a playoff game. They should be in that discussion. This isn't baseball. People need to get that "it takes time" mentality, that actually holds true in baseball, and throw it in the trash when it comes to talking about football. There was maybe 5-6 teams that were never in the discussion to have any sort of chance at a wild card this year. The Bears don't have to be in that group if they do their jobs. That being said, they aren't doing themselves any favors, especially with regards to potentially building around a new franchise QB, by sticking with this coaching staff.

Is it a tattoo of Antoni Gaudi or the Basilica he created in Barcelona?

Maybe he just hates wops? Wins over positional statistics

Also in the mind of people that fired the OL coach

trade for romo? I could not think of a worse decision to make with QB this offseason the dude would be going from the best offensive line in the game to the freaking Bears. he would easily be able to dress as the headless horseman for halloween the bears line is by no means very good, but you really seem to have some weird fixation where you think it's much worse than it is. it's kinda meh. maybe a little better than that. it managed to get two QBs killed this year, and Romo is used to playing for the absolute best line. Going from best to average is going to increase his odds of getting hurt, and he's older, and he's owed a horsefeathers ton of money and he's never going to last the season.

I would like it to happen. I would have liked for them to pick up the option and maintain the rotation depth.

trade for romo? I could not think of a worse decision to make with QB this offseason the dude would be going from the best offensive line in the game to the freaking Bears. he would easily be able to dress as the headless horseman for halloween