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He should serve a purpose if he could actually last past the 5th. But he's gone 6 only 3 of 11 starts. Lasting 5 and giving up 3 all the time is about the opposite of purpose.
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I'm certainly not defending him, but doesn't that make him the best 5th starter in baseball? Yeah, I threw that in there to say that while perception may make all of us think one of he's the worst we've ever seen, he's really not quite that bad. Right now his numbers are in that frustrating middle zone. He's not good enough to really be productive or to be able to trade him, but he isn't really bad enough to get cut either. That is just a horrible way to look at it. There may be 37 other starters with a worse ERA, but are they spread across all 30 teams? Are the just filling in temporarily. Are those ERA's park adjusted? And are they signed to the type of contract Marquis is signed to? I got news for you, Jason Marquis is not the Cubs 5th starter. He was signed to be more like a 3, and as far as guaranteed spots in the rotation he's a 4 right now. A 5th starter is in danger of losing his job at all times. Marquis has been handed his because of his ridiculous contract, and that ridiculous contract cannot be removed from the discussion.
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I agree swing hard, but not every pitch in the sequence. Hes been looking like bad Soriano at the plate lately. Soto has looked nothing like bad Soriano at the plate lately.
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Wow. He's worked 3 consecutive days at least twice. He has just 1 save in a 3+ run lead. And he has more IP than any closer in the league (exception for Torres, who became a closer less than 2 weeks ago). Lou is actually working him in non-save situations much more than necessary, given how many save situations we have. You just pull this stuff out of your ass, don't you? Do everyone a favor..watch the language. I know you think it's funny to be real brave to and say things like that, but it's not. I'm by no means a prude, but children read this and we need to be grown-ups. Out of Wood's 16 saves and 4 blown saves-11 are 1-2 run lead and 5 are 3+run leads. Those games are: April 3 Save #1 May 6-Save #5 May 15-Save #8 May 16-Save #9 June 3-Save #16 Now that we've settled that..please kerry on. You telling people to be grown-ups? With the nonsense you spout off about?
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I disagree. The two pitchers with most chance of injury if you use them tonight are Wuertz and Wood. Those are the pitchers you need to protect most in tonight's game. Marmol's right behind them in the short-term. With him, the bigger concern is the long-term. Once they get the bullpen rested again, they need to start sitting him more in order to get his pace for innings in a season down closer to 90 instead of 103. It would be wonderful if it started tonight, but they shouldn't throw Wuertz or Wood out in a very risky situation for them in order to do it. What's wrong with Wuertz? He's thrown 12, 8 and 11 pitches the past 3 days. Sure you'd prefer not to throw him 4 days in a row, but he's hardly been taxed in those 4 days. And he's not exactly a high priority arm out there either. He's thrown less than Howry, Wood, Lieber and Marmol this year. Marmol is ahead of everybody in the "must care for" department. He's the most important arm and the most abused so far this year.
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yeah, it was on this site a while back.
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Of course nobody would mind having a shut down lefty. But there's no reason to actually go out and try to trade for one. -
The 2008 BA Prospect Hot Sheet Thread
jersey cubs fan replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
Considering it's a season-to-date list, I think they were safe keeping him there regardless of the most recent 12-innings. -
Estes is going to have a tough time reaching the 20-year category the original poster talked about. Well, Mr. Technicality, the OP said "over 20 years" and Mulholland pitched in only exactly 20 years and that's assuming you count 3 IP in 2006 as a year (he skipped '87, apparently). So he's disqualified too. Or, we can drop the nit picking and just talk generally about mediocre pitchers who pitched for a long time. Not sure how that's nit-picking, the guy was talking about 20+ year guys and Estes is in just his 13th, having barely thrown at all in 4 of those seasons. If you are comping up against Jamie Moyer, I don't see much similarity.
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Lieber threw 1 last night and 53 pitches 4 days ago. I doubt he's good for 2-3 tonight. Cotts, Wuertz and Eyre have thrown the least in the past week and should all be fresh for an inning plus if need be. Howry has also been well rested having thrown only 2 innings in 2 appearances over 5 days.
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Estes is going to have a tough time reaching the 20-year category the original poster talked about.
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At specific times, yes, especially late in the third.
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Stone's proclamation doesn't increase the likelihood whatsoever in my opinion. He likes to guarantee a lot of things. Let's see what June and July brings. If Lilly settles down and Hill returns, we might not have any interest in pitching. And if a bat gets hurt and/or somebody slows down, the lineup may be a more pressing need. Then again, if Lou kills Marmol, Hendry might spend the deadline looking for relief help.
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That's a great example of a 20-year pitcher who was mediocre.
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Ok Dr. Ease up. not "dr. ease up". I'm referring to this specific situation and you claiming you'd be pissed if he said what he said to your kid. If it was something where he was out of line or mistreating a kid, absolutely a parent should be pissed. But your overly dramatic reaction to his story is silly.
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I wouldn't say that was identical at all. If he had tried and failed I would have been glad that he tried. I think the other kids would have been supportive too. They were mad that he wouldn't even try. I think he's insinuating that not swinging equals not trying.
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David Wells and Kenny Rogers were the two I was thinking before clicking on the link. He was also far more than mediocre as others have noted. He was above average for his career and pretty darn good in several seasons. But I don't believe he was ever great.
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Maybe? He's 9. I'm sure you did the best you could and that's a tough situation. But if I heard you say that to my kid, I'd be really pissed. At 9, the game should be about having fun. I can understand the logic. There's a decent chance one of the reasons he's afraid to go up there is that he doesn't want to fail and lose the game for the team. Pointing out what happens if he doesn't go up there might give him the perspective to step in the box. Explaining the consequences and trying to guilt him into going to bat are 2 different things. Kid's 9 and crying behind the dugout. I don't think the chances are good that the guilt trip is going to get him to say "you know what? I can hit!" Okay Dr. Ease up, the guy was in a tough spot and tried to get the kid to go up there. Any parent that would get pissed at a coach for saying that shouldn't have their kid playing in organized sports.
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Lou Pinella, What the hell are you doing?
jersey cubs fan replied to Keener98's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Good point. I think Lou is a fine manager, but using W-L record probably isn't the best way to prove that. I give him credit for instilling a good approach with the team, and for appearing to be a pretty good judge of talent. For all the crowing about certain players not getting enough time, Lou has done a decent job of getting the right players into prominent roles (yes, I know someone is going to bring up Marquis or Reed Johnson or whatever). Tactically, he has issues. But every major league manager has tactical issues. We just see Lou's more frequently because we watch the Cubs every day and are more invested in their success. But I've said all this before, and no one cares. I don't really have a problem with his in-game tactics. Compared to Dusty he's a savant in that regard. It's mostly about usage and curious freak outs. Marmol and Wood have been used a heck of a lot for a young kid and an injury prone veteran new to the relief game. And some guys are being used in situations where they are likely to fail. Then throw in the unnecessary extending of Zambrano and that sums it up. Lou has done enough good that my reaction is more about surprise at the dumb things than outright anger like when Dusty pulled the same crap over and over. -
Bulls get the #1 pick! 2008 NBA Draft Discussion
jersey cubs fan replied to DivineBovine's topic in Other Sports
They supposedly want Rose, right? Would they have any interest in getting another guard to go along with him? -
he's 9 Does he have any option years left?
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If he's either really good or really terrible, I'd leave him out there for a while tonight. If he's in that in between zone (5-6 innings, 3-4 runs) and the game is close, I'd pull him. 2 innings of your bullpen saved is not enough reward to hurt your chances of winning by continuing to throw a tired Marquis out there. I wouldn't pull him before the end of the 5th for almost any circumstance though. BTW, I just read that Fukudome is getting the night off tonight. His wife and his recently born son are with him for the first time all season, and Lou is giving him the day off so he can concentrate on them. Facing a lefty I presume. Derosa in right and Ronny at 2nd I assume.
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Lou Pinella, What the hell are you doing?
jersey cubs fan replied to Keener98's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Once again? Z had 5 starts last year coming off a high pitch count (120 or more) 4 of them were quality starts. 9 innings, 1 run 8 innings, 1 run 7 innings, 3 runs 6 2/3 innings, 0 runs 5 innings, 6 runs for a total ERA of 2.77 after a high pitch count last year, which is quite a bit better than his ERA for the season last year. Taking a quick look through game logs from previous seasons (when Z was over 120 with some regularity) it does not look like Z was noticeably worse coming off high pitch counts than any other time. i could have sworn someone once posted z's stats after big pitch counts and they weren't pretty. perhaps i misremembered. I believe it was the last time he went 130 that he came off that with a few bad games in a row. -
13 pitchers is stupid. Throwing Zambrano 130 is stupid. Putting Marmol on pace for 80+ games and 100+ innings is stupid. But it wouldn't be Lou if he didn't unnecessarily freak out and screw around with rash decisions.
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Not that it matters much, but the Cards play the Nats at 6:10 tonight (not the Pirates) . . . but I still agree with your plan! It's June 3rd. You don't make in game decisions based on what is happening in another game.
