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Week 11: Bears @ Packers, Sunday at noon on Fox
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Marmol is much more valuable working in the flexible set-up role.
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What does $7.5m have to do with anything? Gregg is due a big raise in arbitration and is going to be a free agent soon. You can be certain Hendry has thought long and hard about signing him longterm.
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Not a big loss, he was a sham anyway.
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Completely baseless reasoning.
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IF that is the case I will poke out Jim Hendry's eyes and ... Seriously he has to offer arbitration. Has to. They are saying they think he'll get a multi year big money contract and they won't be offering one. They aren't saying they will not be offering arbitration.
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Yankees and Red Sox probably both want big relief arms.
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I'm going to keep repeating this until I believe it, it's not a bad idea to let Wood walk. then again, he hasn't signed elsewhere yet
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Me, the day the Dusty rumors started.
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That's just plain old stupid.
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Nope. Then again, I'm not calling Hendry an idiot, I just hate what he's doing here. I'm sick of him focusing on acquiring other people's middle aged relievers, whether it's via trade or free agency. It's not stupid to let Wood walk. It is odd to me to let Wood walk so you can resign Dempster.
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He either sucks or he's awesome. There is no in-between with this man. Getting rid of Kerry Wood places another tally in the "sucks" column. You'd rather have him handcuff the payroll further by giving an oft-injured closer a 4 year $40 million deal? And what's with the Dempster injury stuff? He had TJS 5 years ago and hasn't had any issues whatsoever since. I can see doubting he can reproduce his production from last year but the injury stuff is way off. It's more a health question. 200 innings is a toll on anybody's arm. He did it 3 times in his 20's then got injured. Now he's got one 200 inning season under his belt after 4 seasons where he averaged 63.
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Okay, but plenty of guys get that now.
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But choosing Dempster over Wood seems so odd given Dempster's own uneven track record, not to mention his own surgery. And Kerry Wood's always been as healthy as an ox. I never said that. Wood is being shown the door because of his track record, yet Dempster may be returning despite what is not a good track record.
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I see $2.5m thrown around for Gregg and I don't get it. He made $2.5m last year, but he's arbitration eligible and in his last year before free agency. Mariano Rivera was about to make $10m in arbitration in his final year of arbitration before free agency, only he signed a 4-year deal. Hendry hands out multi-year contracts to relievers like they are candy and Gregg is coming off back to back closer seasons, which will inflate his price. Is there anyway he gets less than $5m this year? 3 years $12-18m is a very real possibility.
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That's the thing. Wood has been a great pitcher whenever he's been healthy. The bullpen role seems to suit him well. I can understand if he is now looking for, and likely to get 4 years somewhere. But choosing Dempster over Wood seems so odd given Dempster's own uneven track record, not to mention his own surgery.
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http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/11/kerry-wood-and-cubs-split.html
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Pitcher Kerry Wood and the Cubs will part ways after 14 years with the organization, general manager Jim Hendry said today. Wood, who came up in the Cubs organization as one of the team's most heralded prospects ever, had the longest tenure of any Cubs player on the 2008 roster. Earlier today, the Cubs acquired right-handed reliever Kevin Gregg from Florida on Thursday to plug a hole in the bullpen, sending Double-A prospect Jose Ceda to the Marlins. Whether Gregg will be a closer, as he was in Florida, or a set-up man depends on if Carlos Marmol is ready to step into a more significant role. Either way, the Cubs are trying to maintain their options as they head into the free agent season, which officially kicks off on Friday, when teams can makes offers to free agents outside their organization.
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Any chance Gregg is a Type A after next season if he performs decently? Not that I have any faith in our drafting crew, but 2 1st round picks and a year of Gregg for Todd Walker (via Ceda) would be a good return. He could be, yes.
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Hitting is by far the most important aspect of any postition player, so there's no distinction there. But it's not the only thing. You don't think a "good" player with below average defense could become a "very good" player with elite defense? not a freaking 1b. Okay, do defense shouldn't be accounted for at all just because he's a 1B? That's basically what you're saying right now. So Jason Giambi and Derrek Lee put up identical numbers next season. By your logic they should both be rated equally even though when is great defensively and one is a nightmare. Nice. Not accounting at all is not the same thing as hitting being the most important thing for a 1b. And Lee is nearly as good defensively as his reputation suggests.
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I can't imagine them wanting Gregg. I could imagine the Mets wanting him, or even the Yankees*, and the Cubs getting something from them that SD or another team would want. I think it is much more likely that they acquired Gregg because they plan on losing either Wood via free agency or Marmol via trade, than to include him in a deal to SD. *Wouldn't it just be so awesome if they spun Gregg to the Yankees for Melky to get that athletic lefty (switch hitter) bat in the lineup?
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I have a problem with it because I freaking hate overpaid veteran relievers and Hendry has had an absurd obsession with these guys for years. I believe he's in his final year of arbitration before free agency. He's been an okay pitcher who has racked up save totals the past two years, so he's going to get paid in a manner that is out of whack with his actual performance. Plus, I hate oversized ex-Marlins relievers.
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Hitting is by far the most important aspect of any postition player, so there's no distinction there.
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I couldn't imagine them wanting Gregg, maybe they are insisting on Marmol.
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Yeah, probably above league average 1B does not make a player very good.
