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I like to shorten quotes and the second sentence wasn't meaningful to the discussion. Benching a player is one thing. Getting him to change jobs is another. If the Cubs are contemplating benching Harden, they are idiots. I don't think it's a bad idea to try Harden in the pen, however, I don't think it's at all likely that he would want to do that. And despite "not having a choice" players refuse such moves all the time. We aren't talking about moving a guy who can't crack the rotation, we're talking about the most effective starter on the team. -
Week 11: Bears @ Packers, Sunday at noon on Fox
jersey cubs fan replied to jersey cubs fan's topic in Other Sports
I'm worried about that game, being sandwiched between two games against divisional rivals (Packers and Vikings). Rams aren't very good, but they had a stretch where they proved they can beat some decent teams, especially if they aren't focused. I think that stretch is done. A new coach bounce is not unheard of, but Haslett is a goof and that team sucks. If the Bears are any good that won't be a problem. -
The scary thing is it probably doesn't. Instead of paying $10m to one great relief arm they will probably spend $12-15m on a bunch of mediocre arms.
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I'm going to doubt Harden would accept that move. I'm going to doubt Harden would have any choice other than sitting out. Yeah, we know it didn't work for Jason Marquis. Baseball players only do what they are told to do. Please, it's major league baseball. If a starting pitcher approaching free agency does not want to pitch in the bullpen, you can be damn sure he will fight any potential move to the bullpen and 99% of the time he's going to win that battle (even if it means losing the war).
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No, not really. It's much different from a player making a public statement. Teams don't say we're not going to be offering him a contract. Teams don't say we want him to get a contract somewhere else. That may sound like a good way to do negotiations in the real world, but baseball isn't the real world. The Cubs just told Wood to leave.
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I'm going to doubt Harden would accept that move.
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The only benefit would be to basically tell other teams don't bother getting into a bidding war with us, we aren't going to offer anything longterm. These comments effectively lower Wood's value on the market. Teams probably assumed they had to offer X more than the Cubs to get him to move. Now the possibility remains that nobody will feel the need to offer Wood a big contract to get it, and maybe he'll stay on the market and eventually resign for a one year deal. However, I completely agree with you and have no idea what benefit there could be to show him the door rather than letting him walk if he doesn't want to sign. The bottom line is the Cubs are worse right now than they were at the end of the season.
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Week 11: Bears @ Packers, Sunday at noon on Fox
jersey cubs fan replied to jersey cubs fan's topic in Other Sports
Bears Packers on page 2, no comments in over 24 hours? We're talking about potentially the most pivotal game of the season here folks. -
Marmol is much more valuable working in the flexible set-up role.
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What does $7.5m have to do with anything? Gregg is due a big raise in arbitration and is going to be a free agent soon. You can be certain Hendry has thought long and hard about signing him longterm.
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Not a big loss, he was a sham anyway.
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Completely baseless reasoning.
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IF that is the case I will poke out Jim Hendry's eyes and ... Seriously he has to offer arbitration. Has to. They are saying they think he'll get a multi year big money contract and they won't be offering one. They aren't saying they will not be offering arbitration.
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Yankees and Red Sox probably both want big relief arms.
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I'm going to keep repeating this until I believe it, it's not a bad idea to let Wood walk. then again, he hasn't signed elsewhere yet
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Me, the day the Dusty rumors started.
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That's just plain old stupid.
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Nope. Then again, I'm not calling Hendry an idiot, I just hate what he's doing here. I'm sick of him focusing on acquiring other people's middle aged relievers, whether it's via trade or free agency. It's not stupid to let Wood walk. It is odd to me to let Wood walk so you can resign Dempster.
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He either sucks or he's awesome. There is no in-between with this man. Getting rid of Kerry Wood places another tally in the "sucks" column. You'd rather have him handcuff the payroll further by giving an oft-injured closer a 4 year $40 million deal? And what's with the Dempster injury stuff? He had TJS 5 years ago and hasn't had any issues whatsoever since. I can see doubting he can reproduce his production from last year but the injury stuff is way off. It's more a health question. 200 innings is a toll on anybody's arm. He did it 3 times in his 20's then got injured. Now he's got one 200 inning season under his belt after 4 seasons where he averaged 63.
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Okay, but plenty of guys get that now.
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But choosing Dempster over Wood seems so odd given Dempster's own uneven track record, not to mention his own surgery. And Kerry Wood's always been as healthy as an ox. I never said that. Wood is being shown the door because of his track record, yet Dempster may be returning despite what is not a good track record.
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I see $2.5m thrown around for Gregg and I don't get it. He made $2.5m last year, but he's arbitration eligible and in his last year before free agency. Mariano Rivera was about to make $10m in arbitration in his final year of arbitration before free agency, only he signed a 4-year deal. Hendry hands out multi-year contracts to relievers like they are candy and Gregg is coming off back to back closer seasons, which will inflate his price. Is there anyway he gets less than $5m this year? 3 years $12-18m is a very real possibility.
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That's the thing. Wood has been a great pitcher whenever he's been healthy. The bullpen role seems to suit him well. I can understand if he is now looking for, and likely to get 4 years somewhere. But choosing Dempster over Wood seems so odd given Dempster's own uneven track record, not to mention his own surgery.
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http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2008/11/kerry-wood-and-cubs-split.html
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Pitcher Kerry Wood and the Cubs will part ways after 14 years with the organization, general manager Jim Hendry said today. Wood, who came up in the Cubs organization as one of the team's most heralded prospects ever, had the longest tenure of any Cubs player on the 2008 roster. Earlier today, the Cubs acquired right-handed reliever Kevin Gregg from Florida on Thursday to plug a hole in the bullpen, sending Double-A prospect Jose Ceda to the Marlins. Whether Gregg will be a closer, as he was in Florida, or a set-up man depends on if Carlos Marmol is ready to step into a more significant role. Either way, the Cubs are trying to maintain their options as they head into the free agent season, which officially kicks off on Friday, when teams can makes offers to free agents outside their organization.
