We could argue about this all day, but here's my view. You get two points for a win and zero points for a loss. So what do you call it when you get one point? I'll call it a tie. If you're 3-3-3, you're exactly .500. You're right, we could argue about this all day. But my point is, I don't call any scenario where one team gets 1 point, and the other team gets 2 points a tie. It's not an outright loss, but its worse than a tie, especially in any game against a Western Conference opponent. Either way, we've emerged victorious in 3 of our 9 games, which is not a good pace. I agree that it's not a good pace. And I wasn't really calling it a tie vis a vis the team they just played, but in terms of the standings and distribution of points. Yesterday I was going to say that despite the relatively hot recovery off the slow start, they were still not in a good spot, but then I noticed the standings and they were actually the 7 seed. And it wasn't just about playing more games either. However, they've just fallen back out of the race as the 9th seed, due to too many points coming off OTL rather than wins. They definitely need to pick up the pace this coming month. Teams that go .500 don't make the playoffs anymore, you have to be much better than the 3-3-3 pace the Hawks are on. That 82 point pace isn't going to come close to getting it done, it's closer to top of the draft than playoff territory.