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  1. I had that feeling about yesterday's game, and they almost did it until GB refused to win.
  2. Who all got injured? Mike Brown was it right? Brown went off, and Tillman looked like he might have done something to his neck. Hillenmeyer screwed up his ankle, Marcus Hamilton looked like he messed up his knee. And when Olsen started playing more HB/FB I assumed Davis had gotten banged up. Also, Kevin Jones hurt his hammy. And I'm curious about all the time Forte spent not playing. I'm hoping they were just resting him for the end. But he was already banged up going in, and with all the wear and tear, who knows how he'll feel Sunday.
  3. I kind of like that he goes out of his way twice to say an NL club is looking to sign a DH.
  4. Those teams built up those rankings before they played in Chicago in December. The Bears benefitted significantly from playing New Orleans in Chicago instead of the dome and they won't have that benefit Sunday. That is a huge difference. No, it's not a game they should lose, but this is a flawed team that is pretty lucky to have won 3 times in a row. I don't see it lasting.
  5. I would draft offensive line in the first before I'd go WR. And I don't think Orton will ever be excellent, but I think he can be okay. I'd draft QB in the middle rounds this year and next. They definitely need an upgrade to Peterson for the backup RB, Forte needs to touch the ball a heck of a lot less next season.
  6. Not really stupid. The only games being played during this game are Georgia/Michigan St and Nebraska/Clemson. The Outback Bowl will be nearing its end by then and the biggest game of the day starts after hockey. With the biggest bowl games no longer all being played on Jan 1, it's far less of a problem. You've got essentially the entire country sitting on their couches nursing hangovers and/or laziness and plenty of eyeballs available for viewing. I would like to see them try and do this either during the pre Super Bowl bye week, on Super Bowl Saturday, maybe even during Super Bowl pregames, or a week or two after the super bowl, when the sports world is dead.
  7. Jets fans are going to be fun this weekend. I think they will rather lose to the Dolphins so New England does not qualify than win and send New England to the playoffs.
  8. The 1st and 3rd definitely matter for both teams, since Baltimore also plays at 4:15, a 1pm NE win doesn't officially eliminate the Jets from contention. http://www.footballlocks.com/nfl_lines.shtml NFL Lines For Week 17 - NFL Football Line Week Seventeen NFL Line 12/28, 2008 Date & Time Favorite Line Underdog Total 12/28 1:00 ET At Tampa Bay -13 Oakland 39 12/28 1:00 ET At Green Bay -9 Detroit 43 12/28 4:15 ET At Philadelphia -1.5 Dallas 43 12/28 1:00 ET At Minnesota -6.5 NY Giants 42 12/28 1:00 ET Chicago -1.5 At Houston 47 12/28 1:00 ET Carolina -3 At New Orleans 53 12/28 1:00 ET At Atlanta -15 St. Louis 44.5 12/28 1:00 ET At Cincinnati -3 Kansas City 38 12/28 4:15 ET At Baltimore -12.5 Jacksonville 35.5 12/28 1:00 ET Tennessee -3 At Indianapolis 38 12/28 1:00 ET At Pittsburgh -10.5 Cleveland 32 12/28 4:15 ET At NY Jets -2.5 Miami 42 12/28 1:00 ET New England -6.5 At Buffalo 42.5 12/28 4:15 ET At Arizona -6 Seattle 45.5 12/28 4:15 ET At San Francisco -3 Washington 37 12/28 8:15 ET At San Diego -8.5 Denver 50
  9. I've been satisfied with his progress. It was unrealistic to expect much more. You've got a mediocre QB, a line that gives that QB no time and no other threats at receiver. Put Hester on a team with a decent passing game and he'd be an excellent weapon. Maybe this is overly harsh, but I'm not sure Hester is smart enough to play WR. Returning punts is relatively simple on the brain. Run through the hole. Then run faster. We know Hester isn't exactly a brain surgeon. I just get uncomfortable having dumb players on the field. There's room in an NFL offense for dumb receivers. Guys like Jerry Rice are few and far between, combining smarts, toughness and physical ability. Hester is a pretty tough little guy with very good physical ability. His hands are not great, but as long as there are other weapons, I think he's smart enough for the position. Every Super Bowl winner has had their fair share of dummies.
  10. I've been satisfied with his progress. It was unrealistic to expect much more. You've got a mediocre QB, a line that gives that QB no time and no other threats at receiver. Put Hester on a team with a decent passing game and he'd be an excellent weapon. He already was an excellent weapon, and we ruined it. I think nature was going to ruin that anyway. Hester was never going to last as a strictly return man weapon. It just doesn't happen.
  11. I've been satisfied with his progress. It was unrealistic to expect much more. You've got a mediocre QB, a line that gives that QB no time and no other threats at receiver. Put Hester on a team with a decent passing game and he'd be an excellent weapon.
  12. Bears are currently 1.5 point favorites. A week ago I would have predicted Houston would be a 4-5 point favorite, considering how well they played down the stretch. The Texans are better than their record, but then they went out and laid an egg, getting smacked around by the awful Raiders. Houston has a chance to reach .500 in a very tough division. Prior to last week the only times they've been beaten badly was against Pittsburgh and Baltimore. They have a weak defense but a great passing game, and I think they should light up the Bears battered secondary. My guess is the luck runs out this weekend. Even if they get a Giants win, or an Oakland/Philly double upset, the Bears will lose to Houston and end 9-7. Good enough for everybody to keep their jobs, and bad enough to make every Bears fan want them all replaced. Without improvements, the defense is bound to take another step back next season and the offense probably stays stagnant.
  13. What about the horrible waste of a timeout towad the end. They were indecicive about going for it, then tried to change personel, then had to take a timeout when the play clock ran out. It was a sign of a poorly coached team, which the Bears are. I thought that entire drive wasted too much time. Very poor clock management. In my mind, they had to either score on 4 plays or pin the Packers back and force a punt, while still having enough time left on the clock to make one last effort to get in. They got lucky and got into the endzone (they just barely got the first down, although I think if it was short, replay would have still given the Bears a first down), but if they didn't, I'm not sure they would have had enough time to stop the Packers for 3 plays and still have enough time for one more drive. I think the yellow line was the problem on that 4th down play for TV viewers. It didn't look like he reached the line, and the spot was even more short of the line, but the actual first down markers were a good 10 inches shy of the yellow line.
  14. I'm not acting like anything, it was dumb. You don't make plays based on what you thought might have happened. You make the right play. Down it at the 1 and it's either Bears ball on 1 or Packers ball on 1. There was no indication it was a live ball, no ref called the fumble (something they will do and players will notice) and there was no good reason to run that into the end zone. You've obviously not played football then...because when people think there's a live ball they go for the ball. In that situation about 99% of players would have gone for the touchdown and not tried to score on it. When your sprinting down the field and there is a possible live ball your not going to look over to the ref and then back to the ball to make sure it's live Yeah, okay. If you watch the play, pretty much every player acts like a special teamer is supposed to act, positioning themselves to down the ball, except for the new guy, Jones. He's the only one that sprinted into the end zone because he doesn't know what he's doing on special teams.
  15. What about the horrible waste of a timeout towad the end. They were indecicive about going for it, then tried to change personel, then had to take a timeout when the play clock ran out. It was a sign of a poorly coached team, which the Bears are. I thought that was a GB timeout before the FG at the end. Or am I thinking of a different play? I could be wrong, but I think Goony is referring to the 4th down play that the Bears called time out. Yeah, they had a couple nice gains to the outside, then ran a bunch of short yardage junk up the middle. And when they came up short on 3rd down they acted as if they had no idea there was a chance they might have to call a 4th down play. It was a wasted TO that could have been vital if GB actually hit their chip shot FG. They could/should have called a TO before the 2 minute warning and right after, which would have left them with 1:30 to comeback if necessary. You have to be prepared to run out short yardage offense in that situation.
  16. What about the horrible waste of a timeout towad the end. They were indecicive about going for it, then tried to change personel, then had to take a timeout when the play clock ran out. It was a sign of a poorly coached team, which the Bears are.
  17. I'm not acting like anything, it was dumb. You don't make plays based on what you thought might have happened. You make the right play. Down it at the 1 and it's either Bears ball on 1 or Packers ball on 1. There was no indication it was a live ball, no ref called the fumble (something they will do and players will notice) and there was no good reason to run that into the end zone.
  18. No. If they bat if forward it's down where they first touched it or a touchback if it goes all the way in.
  19. It's something that really good special teams players would know to do. The Bears have had a lot of turnover there, and the problem was they had a former starting RB making that play.
  20. Why would the first guy knock it back in to down it? It was going out of bounds at the 2? It was pretty obvious that both thought it was a live ball and were trying to score with it. I personally think the ruling should be, if not a live ball, the ball is downed at the exact spot the first defensive player touches it. It's stupid that it counts as a touchback when the team honestly thought it was a live ball and was attempting to score. It's stupid that you think that. Who cares what they honestly thought? The ball isn't downed when you touch it, you have to stop the ball. It counts as a touchback because they took the ball into the end zone, and it should count that way. Down the ball at the 1, it's either Bears ball at the 1 or Packers ball at the 1. The stupid thing is assuming it touched the playerl when nobody on the field made any sort of motion indicating that it did touch the player.
  21. I don't think so. If the ball was obviously going to go out at about the 2-yard line, why would the guy knock it back in unless he thought it was a live ball? I think they all thought it was. So what was Jones to do? Unless there was an official making some sort of signal that he could look back and see to indicate the ball didn't touch the punt receiver, he was in a catch-22. It was not a catch 22. You down it at the one. If it did touch the guy, worst thing is Bears ball on the Packers 1. The ball wasn't obviously going out on the 2. It was going toward the corner. It could have hit the pylon but the first man down tapped it backward to prevent that from happening. If an official thought it was a fumble he would have thrown the blue bag and that would have been in front of the players faces.
  22. None of the angles showed anything. It was a bad challenge by Lovie because there was no way you were ever going to find conclusive visual evidence to overturn, and they had the entire commercial break to figure that out. Add that to the horrible use of of timeout the rest of the game and the absurd decision to punt in field goal territory and that ridiculous offensive strategy and this was one of the worse coached games they've had all year. Lovie is a good coach for getting the most out of guys, but he's a very disappointing gameday coach.
  23. 1 of those was whistled behind his head while he was running fast in the opposite direction and another hit his hands only after he had to stop running and wait for the ball, giving the defenders time to also get their hands on the ball. If you expect Hester to be a jump ball phenom like Moss and Burress, you are being unrealistic. Hester is the type of receiver a QB has to lead or hit in stride. He's the only Bears receiver capable of getting consistent seperation, not counting the tight ends. Olsen didn't have problems with Orton's passes because they were lobbed into the flat. That type of pass does not require a ton of accuracy, they are easy to make, and easy to catch. Do you remember a time when Hester made a semi-difficult catch? I'm not asking for him to make catches like the one handed blind catch that Booker made earlier this year, but the one that Orton shorted was still right in his hands, even though he had to slow up and turn around. If he's going to be a WR, I just want to see him make some medium difficulty catches. Yes, he's made a few because Orton rarely hits him in stride. He's an inexperienced developing WR. His lack of fancy catches is much less of a problem than the QB's lack of an ability to throw him a good ball.
  24. On Rodgers and Orton: Look at the difference in time they had to make their throws. When Rodgers was pressured by the occasional Manning blitz, he didn't look good. But on most throws he was able to drop back, set his feet, look around, wait for a receiver to come open and then throw. Orton was take 3-4 steps and throw or else you are dead because John Freaking Saint Clair is still the starting left tackle and you are lucky you weren't dead before the game started. The defense played well at times, but the 4-man line continued to be incompetent when rushing the passer. On one big play Alex Brown was playing pattycake with the tackle 8 yards away from Rodgers and the other end, I wasn't able to tell, got close to the sideline than the backfield. Davis was benched officially, and Bennet was the official third receiver. I don't think that ball hit the return man and I don't believe how stupid Kevin Jones was for running it into the end zone. The first guy was knocking it back to down it and Jones gives them the ball on the 20. The NFL has to have HD cameras set up on both sides of each goal line and a movable one at each first down marker.
  25. I agree. They played awful for most of the game until Forte was finally able to get it going. And Orton is unbelievably bad. This is way worse than Grossman ever was. At least when Grossman was bad it was because he was trying to make plays. The INTs by Orton last night were things a high school QB should know not to do. I'll admit, I've never been an Orton fan. But he's not going to take this team anywhere and I hope they don't sign him for next year. Disagree. When Grossman was at his worst he made last night's Orton look like a solid QB. At least when Orton is bad he still makes the occasional pass and doesn't completely crap the bed and give it all away. He's still been awful recently. The only reason Orton's picks didn't completely "give it all away" last night was because the Packers were pretty inept in their own right. Those throws were inexcusable. Well that and they were "relatively safe" picks, in that they were right over the middle in front of a crowd. Grossman just lobbed the ball into the flat no matter who was around when things got tough. Grossman at his worst is much worse than Orton has been. If bad Rex was playing last night, the team never would have had a chance to comeback.
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