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Throw EVERYTHING at a whiny baby who has compiled a .500 record and is interception prone? His record is meaningless. He's done his job. With a halfway decent defense that record would be better.
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The Jets are coming up soon, I had a couple names in mind but both were recently taken. In the interest of making things go faster, if anybody wants to PM me suggestions for the Jets selection, I'll take a look. I've gone QB/WR so far, and am looking for BPA.
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What's so hard is probably Denver has no intentions of actually dealing him, and that throwing EVERYTHING at them could be a mistake - depending what EVERYTHING means. With or without Cutler, the Bears need offensive line help, wide receivers and defensive upgrades. If they were to trade 2 firsts and a second, plus Orton, where would that leave them? A franchise QB would be a godsend, but without the ability to field a team around him, that QB isn't going to shine all that brightly. As to the comment that the Bears have never had a good-great QB at any point, McMahon was good, Harbaugh was good, Kramer was good for a bit, Miller was as well. They've had good QBs. The problem is they haven't had good QB's for any extended period of time, and when they did, briefly, the only time it coincided with the rest of the team being good enough to really contend, was with McMahon. Clearly they've never had a great QB.
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So it's going to break down if he repeats this motion consistently over time, but the number of consistent repetitions of this movement over time does not matter. -
I think they think they did this. Apparantly they feel Bullocks problems were related to the largely man coverage he played in New Orleans and that he'll be fine in a cover-2 scheme. I actually forgot about Bullocks, but I don't think he's any better than Danieal. But he still allows Danieal to stay at nickel and provides depth.
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Sign an OT in the next couple weeks and I love Duke in the 2nd. I'd still rather get a DE in the first (Ayres), rather than waiting for the 3rd. I think the 3rd round WR is closer to the 1st round talent than the 3rd round DE talent is to the 1st round talent. I'd take Iglesias, Louis Murphy, etc along w/ Ayres over DHB and a DE like Shaunessey (sp?). Considering they already have 3 defensive ends and a defensive line coach they expect to improve what's there, couldn't the argument be made to just find a pass rush specialist later? Sure, it would be nice to get a stud. But they got Brown in the 4th and Anderson in the 5th, and Ogunleye was an undrafted free agent. My bet is they'd stand a much better chance of turning a project or one dimensional low round end into a valuable player than they would a receiver.
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Something tells me Davis didn't beat Parcells. If this guy is a former starter on a team like the Dolphins, which went through interior lineman on a weekly basis, he's probably just not good.
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I think they think they did this. Apparantly they feel Bullocks problems were related to the largely man coverage he played in New Orleans and that he'll be fine in a cover-2 scheme.
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needn't?
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If they had a good line and brought in one good receiver, I think Orton would be fine. The problem isn't really settling on Orton, but not giving him much of anything to work with. Olsen and Hester are his only real weapons. And Forte. I agree he doesn't have the weapons, but I also feel he's not going to be a top level QB regardless. No, he'll never be Manning. But look at Pittsburgh, they win with regularity without a guy at QB who lights it up. Obviously I'd prefer to have a solid franchise QB. But Orton can get the job done if he has better receivers. I don't really consider Forte a weapon in the passing game. It's fine to dump off to the guy every once in a while, but when i'm talking weapon, I mean guys who can get you 10-20+ yards on a somewhat regular basis.
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If they had a good line and brought in one good receiver, I think Orton would be fine. The problem isn't really settling on Orton, but not giving him much of anything to work with. Olsen and Hester are his only real weapons.
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Larry Mayer on chicagobears.com responded to a reader's question about the lack of free agent signings by saying, "well Indy and Pittsburgh" haven't signed any guys either. Obviously he's implying that good teams don't waste their money on free agents. The problem is those are good teams that don't need free agents. The Bears aren't a good team and do need a hunge influx of talent. They need to get them through free agency because they've thrown away so many draft selections in recent years. Just this year they released a late draft pick (who signed elsewhere) so they could bring back Fred Miller's corpse to bring absolutely nothing to the team.
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Lou: Fukudome Penciled in at 2-Spot in Linuep
jersey cubs fan replied to E.J.'s topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
And just because he did that last year, that doesn't make him an above average hitter today. You can't define players simply by their previous season. Theriot doesn't give you a .380 OBP, he did it last year, but that doesn't guarantee he does it this year. In 2007 he was bottom of the barrel. That's true, although bottom of the barrel is really exaggerating it (a .672 OPS was still better than 9 other teams that season and 1 point off a 10th). Theriot was definitely below average though that year. Last year, Theriot's production at SS was better than 20 teams. Even accounting for the fact that a couple of teams had their backups probably pull down their numbers of their starters that might have been above Theriot, that still leaves him as above average. It especially is so when you consider that he's 40 to 50 points better in OBP than other SS's around that production level. Theriot would have to come close to repeating last year to be above average. A .290/.350/.355 line would put him at average though. Cubs shortstops were worst in the league, and once Theriot took over the SS job his numbers were nearly identical to total Cubs shortstop numbers in 2007. -
$9.5 million is not a lot of money for a free agent year option. It makes sense for the guy to sign a deal that allows him to be set for life. But he's leaving a lot of money on the table by agreeing with this.
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08-09' Blackhawks (46-24-12) 104 PTS - 4th Seed In The West!
jersey cubs fan replied to Cynosure's topic in Other Sports
Yeah, it sucked. LA does broadcast their games on a RSN, but I think maybe yesterday's game was on an over-the-air channel. I've seen their broadcasts before on Center Ice. EDIT: Actually, yesterday was just a no-TV game for the Kings. It's odd, but the Blues have had a few this year too. http://kings.nhl.com/team/app?service=page&page=TeamSchedule What kind of backwoods professional sports organization would keep their team's games off of TV? -
Lou: Fukudome Penciled in at 2-Spot in Linuep
jersey cubs fan replied to E.J.'s topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
And just because he did that last year, that doesn't make him an above average hitter today. You can't define players simply by their previous season. Theriot doesn't give you a .380 OBP, he did it last year, but that doesn't guarantee he does it this year. In 2007 he was bottom of the barrel. -
08-09' Blackhawks (46-24-12) 104 PTS - 4th Seed In The West!
jersey cubs fan replied to Cynosure's topic in Other Sports
Hooray for victories. Although I really hate WGN broadcasts. The lack of an HD option on directv completely detracts from the event. Hockey is the best HD sport, or at least the biggest beneficiary. Does LA not broadcast their games? This is the second Kings/Hawks game I got stuck watching on a non-HD feed. Most games give you 4 options, HD and non-HD for each team's network, but yesterday I had only the non-HD WGN feed. -
So the answer is no, you don't. :wink:
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I think White in the 2nd would be a bad idea and the Bears won't do it. If they did, they'd fail to implement it properly. If you think otherwise fine, but I'm not sure what this discussion is about anymore. Its a discussion of the hypothetical scenario of running the Wildcat offense and spending a second or third rounder on Pat White to do so. It kind of became whether or not the Bears would do it, but I was originally less concerned about whether or not they would. Just curious how people would feel if they did. I'd be intrigued and nervous, but excited for the possibility it could work, and you think its a stupid idea. What I don't get is you seem to want it to happen, deny wanting it, then support it. Do you want them to draft Pat White in the 2nd round?
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Return man was actually a big need that year. It wasn't a second round need. We had Berrian, Davis, and possibly Vasher all capable of doing so. Plus many fans felt he would have been around much longer. It was a pretty big need, much more than "wildcat QB" is right now. Davis was a just signed DB converting to WR. Berrian was in the process of becoming the featured WR and Vasher was not a return candidate. Their 2 primary returners from the before were gone, and if I remember correctly, had some serious fumble issues. It was an 11 win team with a great defense, weak offense and shaky special teams. They wanted playmakers and drafted 2 returners to make those plays. They didn't have huge holes on the offensive lines. They had Moose and Berrian, plus a halfway decent Justin Gage and the converted Davis for receivers (plus felt giving Grossman the job from the start would help) and didn't feel a need there. They didn't have any significant defensive needs. And felt comfortable making specific improvements to the return game. This team is completely different. They have needs on the OLine, WR, and really need fresh bodies on defense. They don't have the luxury of screwing around with a guy who might make a decent wildcat QB in the 2nd round.
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I think White in the 2nd would be a bad idea and the Bears won't do it. If they did, they'd fail to implement it properly. If you think otherwise fine, but I'm not sure what this discussion is about anymore.
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Return man was actually a big need that year.
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The wildcat just isn't that interesting to me. It's how they played football 70 years ago. The Bears desperately need offensive lineman, WR and help on defense. Spending a 2nd rounder on White to potentially run some wildcat plays would be an incredible waste of resources. If he's around in the 5th, fine.
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since Ron Turner probably isnt doing the formal and/or funcion of drafting, I dont think we need to worry about it So the GM is going to ignore how his coaches coach when making decisions? Is he also going to ignore the Bears are primarily a cover-2 team that emphasizes speed over size? Angelo doesn't draft guys that don't fit what they need and can use. He might draft guys that ultimately suck, but they fit profiles.
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I don't know if anyone has said that. The RealGM guy has predicted the Bears to pick him, but I'm not sure under what idea. He may have made the pick with the understanding the Bears would try and use him as a full time QB. Who knows. I just asked the hypothetical if the Bears picked him with that intention how fans would feel. I would feel there's no way the Bears do that because it would be stupid, and because Ron Turner wouldn't know how to make it work.
