Well I meant the more, I hate these [expletive] and the way they act(i.e. Moises Alou) I figured that's what you meant, but I'd have to say I feel very similarly about this team. Baker and Alou are gone, and I love Lee and Ramirez now more than ever, but Bradley has pissed me off a lot (and at least Alou performed that year), Zambrano has been annoying, Miles is the new Neifi and I'm more annoyed with Hendry than ever. The foisting of Heilman and Gregg on this team as "necessary" veteran bullpen arms is just as frustrating. And while it's not on the same scale, the misuse of Harden and abandonment of the extra rest and "pretreatment" brings up past incidents of stupid decisions with pitchers. 2004 was opportunity lost, but at least they were in it up until the end. 2009 has been opportunity lost and they only seemed to be in it for about 2 weeks, and crumbled much sooner.