BigSlick

I love David Carr. I think he's a great talent. I'd love him on the Bears, but I would never in a million years pay him that salary and trade the talent it would take to get him. Seems like a 3rd or 4th rounder might be all it takes, which isn't that steep (though JA's 3rd rounders are gold). Trade a 3rd rounder for Carr, then ship off Rex or Griese for a late draft pick to make up for it. Rex would probably be easier to ship off, with Griese's contract lasting 4 more years and Grossman's just one. Plus, we'd have to open up #8 for Carr ;) I'd take Boller over Carr for a 3rd rounder IMO. I wouldn't.

???? DAVID CARR IS THE BEST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO THE TEXANS Their [expletive] fans can't comprehend that the team around him is double atrocious. 68.3% COMPLETION PERCENTAGE? Thats 15% better than Grossman. Give me that. Give me that right now. We win the Superbowl by default.

As much as I like Grossman, if we had McNabb on our team and every other position was the same (say we only gave up draft picks for him) we'd be LOCKS for the Superbowl.

On the contrary, I believe it would be a fantastic trade by the giants, they would be getting return on a player that they not only dont own, but one that is the best player on one of their chief rivals. Wow that was a brain fart, all that talk about Eli manning screwed with my brain.

Don't misunderstand me, I want Rex starting next year, but lets talk about these rumors: McNabb to the Bears would either be a really [expletive] trade by the Giants, or so cost effective on the Bears side that we wouldn't have half the team we had this year. What about someone like Byron Leftwich? Well, again, cost effective, and how much of an improvement is he over Grossman? If Grossman is going to replaced theres someone on the roster already. I would like to see us pick a mid-range QB though, its alawys smart to stockpile those guys.

The Bears wouldn't have been in the Super Bowl without Grossman this year. He's not ideal by any stretch. But Griese sure as hell isn't a sure thing for glory. I agree Griese wouldn't be better. But I don't think mediocre is ok just because we don't have anything better when we're going into the offseason now, and can try to get something better. I understand our options are limited, but I think Angelo has to look at all of those options and figure out if Rex really is the best option. I'm not sure he is. There's no obvious free agent option. There's no chance of a near-term solution via the draft. The Bears need to put 100% of their QB efforts behind making Rex better. Or at the most, put some of that into drafting a future QB in the middle rounds. But barring any miracle situation where they discover a diamond in the rough off somebody else's bench, Grossman is the QB. Yeah, I guess I just don't like the "there's no other choice" argument. I know there's injury concerns, but if you could get Byron Leftwich for say a 4th or 5th round pick, would you do it? i'd stay away from leftwich... Honestly, Leftwich would be a kinda nice fantasy option in a world without any other worries. He's got a huge arm so he can rifle stuff to Berrian and some of the other speedy guys, is really accurate. Problem is, his mobility is much much worse than Grossman's, fumbles a bit, and probably is more injury prone than Grossman.

Definitely. I also think we should take a mid-round waiver on a QB, not because I want him to replace Grossman, but because its a smart thing to do every couple years. I don't want Grossman replaced, but if he is, why is everyone ignoring Brian Griese? He probably has the skillset that all you ninny's want. He's accurate and is a little wussy so he'll limit his picks. He also will never win you a game. Why take JaMarcus Russel when you got this guy on your bench for millions a year? changed

Agreed. The offensive gameplan in general was pretty bad. We didn't move the ball at all. And Grossman was something like 10-12 in the first quarter. What was up with that?

I was laughing about that as well. I think either of teh running backs deserved the MVP over Manning.

Chico and Turner can walk for all I care. help me and tell me why.... :shock: If any team hires Ron Turner, God bless them. Seconded He called a pretty meh superbowl, I haven't liked his gameplans....since we've had him. Oh well.

What happens if bonuses like that push you over the cap or something?

Those are shockingly appropriate. Hopefully they don't turn out true of course.

Let's go Bears! Kick the Colts back to Baltimore!!!! That would just make a lot of people happy.

Simmons picked us. Usually I wouldn't be in favor of that asshat supporting our team, but keep this in mind. His favorite team has won 3 out of the last 5 superbowls. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070202

I'm gonna be on top of that!

No kidding.... when you've sent six first round draft picks to the NFL and the most accomplished one is either Trent Dilfer or David Carr, that's not saying much. David Carr is one helluva QB, dude.

The only thing that worries me is Accuscore because its actually a fairly good determiner of the outcome of a game. No doubt about it, fellow Bears fans, this is gonna be a tough one.

John Clayton's article today pretty much says Harper won't play. He said that he's only been able to get about 10 min of running in this week, and that he's wearing a boot. While that bodes well for us, I hope that Grossman just doesn't key on whoever is replacing Harper and go after him...I want Rex to go through his reads as he normally would. Clayton's article also says Rex has been bad more than good this season. Which is plain wrong any way you try and look at it. It also says what Clayton harps on every time he rights about the Bears: "Fans wanted him replaced by Brian Griese." Nice generalization John. Fans always want the starting QB replaced unless their name is Manning. I had completely missed the "More times, he's been cold" comment. It also says he was terrible in the NFC Championship game. Another lie. Well, to be fair, for most of the game, he was pretty awful, which is how his stats still don't look good even with the one great drive. He didn't throw any INT's, but he couldn't complete any passes for 2 1/2 quarters and basically wasted his defense's efforts until the one drive. Sorry, but I've seen awful Rex. That wasn't awful Rex. Saying he was ineffective for the first half might be more accurate. But awful is just overstating it. It might not be awful Rex, but any time your QB is 4/18 for 54 yards at one point in the second half, it's playing awful as a QB. If any other QB had those numbers, you wouldn't say he was simply "ineffective" Rex has really simply stretched the boundaries of what it means to be awful, as 2 or 3 of his performances this year are probably listed on the 20 or 30 worst games in football history (I know the Arizona game is with 6 TO's). Of course at the same time, he's been very effective in large stretches of the year as well-I'm not saying he's awful overall, but he was awful most of the game last Sunday. The passing game is more than just the quarterback. I saw more than a few drops in his first 18 passes, and many near misses. He had one awful awful miss in the endzone with a wide open Desmond Clark, but he ddn't play awful at the beginning. Go run the tape if you have to.

Peyton will get his yards. Its the design of the cover-2. Even Drew Brees threw for 350+ yards. Its points that are the deciding factor.

Bad weather can only help the Bears, but its Miami, so I wont get my hopes up. Go bears!

Ugh, when I think deeply about this match up I get more and more depressed. I really see the beginning playing out similarly to the New Orleans game. We get some breaks and we don't capitalize fully on their mistakes. Once they get their offense back on its feet they'll steamroll up and down the field and win on a last second field goal or something. Lame.

Its pretty much how I greet my friends now. "Bears bears bears"

Jim Nantz and Phil Simms. Unlness you're at my place where you'll just hear a bunch of incoherent drunken shouts. Not like you'll be missing any hardhitting analysis, these guys are awful.

I actually thought that article was funny. It makes fun of all the obvious jokes, both Bears and Colts-he wasn't trying to be really serious, so just go with the flow and enjoy it :D Watch it someone got in trouble for saying something like that before. I'm confused, but I'll edit it anyway just to be safe-thanks. How can someone get in trouble for telling someone to "go with the flow"?

I actually thought that article was funny. It makes fun of all the obvious jokes, both Bears and Colts-he wasn't trying to be really serious, so just go with the flow and enjoy it :D No, I'm not going to go with the flow and enjoy it. Going with the flow means admitting that Rex Grossman is the worst quarterback to ever set foot on a football field. The criticism was ridiculous 2 months ago. Its even moreso after playing well in 2 playoff games and getting to the Superbowl. Enough. I'm pissed.