You know, I admit this game was one of the ugliest I've ever seen, but this [expletive] annoys me. Why isn't it while Georgia Tech allows 50 in the first half against Wake, meanwhile, neither team in PSU/IL has allowed that much over a full game. This isn't so much directed at you, but at buffoons like Vitale who talk down the Big 10 because they don't score 100 points against each other. :-k Both teams allowed considerably more than 50 in their games against ACC opponents (85 and 76 respectively... ps - it was the ACC worst GT that scored 85) I'm not saying that they are bad teams necessarily, and I will be the first to say that Dickie V is worthless, but to insinuate in some fashion that the Big 10 and the ACC (at least offensively) are equals is a far stretch. Haha, how bout you tell me how many those teams scored in those games. Probably in the 30s right? nope, much higher. but your it still shoots holes in your "Big 10 schools are great because of their defense" logic when the worst team in the ACC posts 85 in early season play. Do you really want to go down the road of comparing ACC vs. Big 10 schools? I'm fairly positive the last decade has provided me with significant ammunition. Once again, I'm not saying they are bad teams. I'm sure they are very good teams with good defense that had an off night, but please, don't pull a random ACC game to use as the backbone of your argument. ETA: OK, I see your edit. Disregard this post. I hate Dick Vitale too, can we agree on that?