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That's always a good sign. Still, we'll see how he develops and if he can stick at CF. Here's a sobering thought. Even if he sticks at CF, he's only 7 months younger than Pie. Is there any chance that Colvin will be a better player than Felix? Doubtful. You never draft based on potential major league depth, especially when the player in question (Pie) hasn't played in the majors and had a chance to prove he can stick or flounder. It would be similar to 5 years ago, complaining about the Cubs signing Pie from the DR with Patterson almost ready for the majors. I'm not saying they shouldnt have drafted Colvin because of Pie. I think they shouldnt have drafted him because he's not very good. What I was saying is that O_O (and others) have mentioned him maybe sticking at CF. Even if he does, he's only half a year younger than Pie, and he's producing at nowhere near the level Pie is/has. The best case scenario for Colvin at this point appears to be him playing a decent CF and being a decent hitter. Even if his defense in CF is adequate enough to make his bat not a liability, chances are it's a moot point anyway because Pie's defense AND bat will be better. I think that Colvin's performance so far this year just underscores what a bad pick it was. And it's not the same thing as Pie/Patterson situation, besides the fact that that isn't at all what my post implied. Pie was much younger than Colvin when he was signed, and who's to say that we passed up a better prospect for Pie? Did we sign Pie and pass up a more talented player? (Like we did with Colvin/Snider). It isn't the same thing at all.
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That's always a good sign. Still, we'll see how he develops and if he can stick at CF. Here's a sobering thought. Even if he sticks at CF, he's only 7 months younger than Pie. Is there any chance that Colvin will be a better player than Felix? Doubtful.
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what happened to Dusty?
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The point is, Snider was much, much more highly regarded come draft time than our own Tyler Colvin was. 200 at bats later, Colvin looks like he may never be a starter, while Snider looks like he has boat loads of potential. I'm not looking at 200 ab's and saying that Snider is god's gift to outfielders, I'm saying that pre-draft, Snider was a better prospect, and post draft he's a better prospect. Be honest, who would you rather have, the young guy with great numbers or the older guy with mediocre numbers. That's retorical by the way.
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:roll: Thats some sample size you got there Colvin is also 3 years older. I forgot to mention that.
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Travis Snider .325/.412/.567/.979 30BB in 197 AB Tyler Colvin .282/.329/.455/.784 15BB in 220 AB Thanks Wilken
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And people wanted to blame Aramis for 2006 (subtitled "And you want to be my latex salesman) -
That's been my take on things. His swing adjustment seems to be driving his current level of performance more than good luck or simply just a hot streak. Is he also getting lucky with more than the usual amounts of balls in play dropping for hits? Yes. But also, no one believes that he is likely to keep up the pace he has been at in August. But his BABIP wasn't that out of line in July, at least not for a guy making up for some bad luck earlier in the season. I think the statistical and anecdotal evidence clearly shows a high likelihood of Harvey having turned a pretty big corner with this swing adjustment. Does he have further to go? Of course. But luckily, he is still rather young. So far in August, he has struck out 17 times and walked 6 times with 1 HBP in 82 ABs. That's not great, but it is better than any other month this year. Now he just has to continue improving... Hell, at this rate I'd take 6 walks every 80 at bats. Especially if they can get him to play CF in the majors.
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He was comparing rookies with comparable statistics, I doubt he threw a bunch of pitchers into the white group, skewing all the numbers.
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Ok, we're going to go down to Raw, and then you guys send me your teams. ill upload them and then you can screw around on waiver pickups until the season starts
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jay feely
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2006 NSBB Minor League Player of the Year
imb replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
1. Gallagher 1a. Veal (I voted Gallagher due to my adherence to the alphabetical order.) 2. Pie 3. Who cares -
I heard that Isiah Thomas was interested.
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I agree. Not getting out is waaaay lame. Yeah man. Every fantasy league I've ever played in has obp as a stat. Oh wait, no league I've ever played in has that as a stat. Never mind. A bunch nerds like the fantasy geeks you talked about use computers to research crap like medicine, science, and technology. I don't have a lot of use for that stuff. If I get constant headaches, I'm not gonna go get a "CT Scan." If I have horrible vision, I'm not going to get "laser surgery." Basically, everything that I need to know, I learned when I was 6. Everything else is frivolous gobbily-[expletive] that can't in any way educate me further on a subject I'm interested or teach me anything of value that would help me along in life. Critical thinking is almost as lame as not getting out in baseball. Almost. Come on, wolf. You know that that's way out of line. I want to reiterate Cuse's post, there has been a lot of border-line stuff. This is a nice, interesting thread. Please stick to the rules, folks. Not a single thing in that post is anywhere near as inflammatory as "stat geek" and "fantasy baseball nerds" that a certain minor league announcer has used.
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Free Agent Pitchers
imb replied to questionmarkgrace's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Is this sarcastic? If Bronson can do it, anyone can! -
How in the world can people that get paid to analyze baseball be so completely wrong in how they view and judge it? It's mind-boggling to me.
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Minor League Discussion & Boxes 8-20-2006
imb replied to Outshined_One's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
Man, if Veal and Gallagher both make it to the majors as productive starters, what a coup that would be. -
What was a joke?
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Well, then he's confused, or the Cards have hired mongoloids in their "stat geek" department.
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Not one "stat geek" would honestly say that Neifi Perez is better than Derek Jeter. No one thinks that, on either side of the fence. You're either confused or making it up.
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No, those are the stat geeks that have said that "Neifi Perez is the worst player in major league history". You don't even know what you're arguing. "Don't know what goes into their numbers"? You're just making up nonsense.
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Free Agent Pitchers
imb replied to questionmarkgrace's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Dude, just target cheap, decent AL starters. Bring them to the NL and watch them dominate. I'm certain that Meche would be great in the NL Central. -
No, the contract is assigned to the claiming team in a waiver deal. Really? I thought that was only if he were picked up off waivers? This was a trade. Neifi passed through waivers and was traded.
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Are we paying any of his salary? If not, score. If so...score.
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The problem I have is that you are doing that exact same thing. Only not with stats. You don't like sabrmetrics because they "can make a bad player look good"? You're trying to make Cesar Izturis sound like a decent player because of his defense, which, while admittedly good is only what, ten percent of the game? 20 percent? Whatever it is, it's not enough to make him a valuable player. In the end you're doing the exact thing you're railing against, using conventional baseball wisdom (instead of statistical analysis) to make a bad player look good. Studying and using stats don't make bad players look good, it exposes bad players.
