I agree. Not getting out is waaaay lame. Yeah man. Every fantasy league I've ever played in has obp as a stat. Oh wait, no league I've ever played in has that as a stat. Never mind. A bunch nerds like the fantasy geeks you talked about use computers to research crap like medicine, science, and technology. I don't have a lot of use for that stuff. If I get constant headaches, I'm not gonna go get a "CT Scan." If I have horrible vision, I'm not going to get "laser surgery." Basically, everything that I need to know, I learned when I was 6. Everything else is frivolous gobbily-[expletive] that can't in any way educate me further on a subject I'm interested or teach me anything of value that would help me along in life. Critical thinking is almost as lame as not getting out in baseball. Almost. Come on, wolf. You know that that's way out of line. I want to reiterate Cuse's post, there has been a lot of border-line stuff. This is a nice, interesting thread. Please stick to the rules, folks. Not a single thing in that post is anywhere near as inflammatory as "stat geek" and "fantasy baseball nerds" that a certain minor league announcer has used.