srbin84

You get arrested, and all you can manage is a friggin' toothpaste tube? If you're going to be juvenile, at least come up with something clever like Syringe Boy in San Diego. How about a Swedish penis enlarger like from Austin Powers?

K-Pee? that's really stupid. patterson's only really bad year was '05. his '04 was better than jones' '05. we all know how he started out in '03. I found it quite witty.

I'm always up for organized baseball(and had to skip my summer league this year due to work) but getting 16 more people to agree might be tough. I'd love to get in a summer league, do you have any info? PM me. Thanks.

Maddux rules.

I'm sticking with Giles/Rincon. Rincon wasn't bad with the Indians, but Giles went into his prime of 5 straight years of 148+ OPS+ after the deal. I'm sticking with mine. Kevin Stocker: about .230/.320/.650 for D-Rays in approx. 3 years, then retired after finishing final season with Angels at age 30. Bobby Abreu: about .305/.420/.950 234 SB for Phillies in 8 seasons with Phillies, still a star player for them. 2 time Allstar (04, 05), 1 Gold Glove (05)

Ooooh. Good one. I thought they picked him in the rule 5 draft from the Astros?

Bobby Abreu for Kevin Stocker.

Freddy Garcia, Carlos Guillen and John Halama for Randy Johnson

He would be serviceable in right field. He definitely has the arm for it. His power would make him ideal to have to platoon alongside Jacque. With Pagan out, I'd think Dubois would be a good player to have around right now. Offensively, I agree with you, but from what I remember of his outfield play last year, he's a butcher.

I don't really see what use Dubois would have in the NL other than as an occasional pinch hitter. Maybe he can play first, but we have Lee and Walker already.

I guess the vote is no for a game this summer...that Sox.

He pitched for the Giants before.

http://www.bassnutz.com/images/smilies/MrBurnsmed.gif Excellent.

It's not as if Billy Beane doesn't carry guys on the roster that aren't OBP guys...T-Long.

When I look at SP's I'd like the Cubs to aquire, the first thing I look at is health, the second is price. If they pass the first two tests, especially the first, I'll look at the numbers. I'll take a guy with numbers that are a little worse over a little better guy with a history of injuries all the time.

Well, if any avitar is worthy of being oversized, it's one that features Aramis. Nevertheless, big avitars make it hard to read the posts.

If Maddux is resigned, it will be for less money and Wood's 10 mil will be off the books; that should free up enought money. Not to mention Pierre makes about 6 mil and may be relpaced by Pie, who will be making basically nothing. If they Cubs aren't players this offseason, it's gonna be a long year in 2007. Right now, there is no reason to believe we can just put Marshall, Guzman, Hill and/or Ryu in 3 of the rotation spots and expect to have a winning record. You aren't taking into account raises to many of the currently rostered players. Barrett, Lee, Ramirez, Zambrano and Prior. That gobbles up a lot of that money right there. Zambrano and Prior figure to lock down 2 spots, and I would venture to guess that one or maybe even two of Maddux, Wood, Miller and Williams would lock down a 3rd and/or 4th spot, with one of Marshall, Guzman, Brownlie or Ryu locking down the last spots. If Guzman is back to complete health, he's going to be a very dominant pitcher. The Cubs may want to bring Pierre back. Of the currently rostered players, none of them are deemed as lead off hitters per organizational philosophy. Pie isn't a lead off hitter either. If they don't bring back Pierre and Pie is penciled in to play CF, who leads off for the 2007 Cubs? Walker probably won't be back. Barrett, Lee, Cedeno, Ramirez, Murton, Pie and Jones. 2nd base is the only place they may fill next year, and there really aren't that many "lead off" hitters that play 2b. At least not true lead off hitters given the organizations definition of a lead off hitter. In 2008, Patterson might be ready, but I doubt he'd jump all the way to the bigs to start off next season. Well, ok. I would be pretty disappointed if we brought back Wood and Miller though. I'm sick of having more than half of our rotation go on the DL every year.

Yeah, it seems like Beane would make that trade as long as there wasn't a better offer on the table. Haha. Williams isn't that good. Look at what it took to land Mulder and Hudson. Well, IMO, Williams is equal to Haren and Zito is less valuable than Mulder or Hudson. I think Haren had a whopping 4.5+ K/BB ratio in pro ball at the time of the trade. Haren has better stuff than Williams and better control. He strikes out more hitters, walks less, and allows fewer baserunners. He is a far better pitcher than Williams is. Zito may or may not be less valuable than Mulder and Hudson, but in a poor FA pitching market, he's worth a lot. He's also a lefty, which increases his value to many clubs. Yeah, he probably will be overpriced, I agree. However, I evaluate pitchers based on ERA first and foremost, and Williams is actually better in that area. Williams has a better ML ERA. Haren has a much better minor league ERA (more innings to compare). Haren has one season under his belt. It's not exactly a fair comparison, IMO, since one bad game bloats ERA so much (compared to stats like WHIP, K/BB, and the more exotic stats). Ok, well, I guess we just have a difference of opinion in that regard. They are both around 350 innings. I think that's enough to where I certainly couldn't say one is far better than the other.

Yeah, it seems like Beane would make that trade as long as there wasn't a better offer on the table. Haha. Williams isn't that good. Look at what it took to land Mulder and Hudson. Well, IMO, Williams is equal to Haren and Zito is less valuable than Mulder or Hudson. I think Haren had a whopping 4.5+ K/BB ratio in pro ball at the time of the trade. Haren has better stuff than Williams and better control. He strikes out more hitters, walks less, and allows fewer baserunners. He is a far better pitcher than Williams is. Zito may or may not be less valuable than Mulder and Hudson, but in a poor FA pitching market, he's worth a lot. He's also a lefty, which increases his value to many clubs. Yeah, he probably will be overpriced, I agree. However, I evaluate pitchers based on ERA first and foremost, and Williams is actually better in that area.

If Maddux is resigned, it will be for less money and Wood's 10 mil will be off the books; that should free up enought money. Not to mention Pierre makes about 6 mil and may be relpaced by Pie, who will be making basically nothing. If they Cubs aren't players this offseason, it's gonna be a long year in 2007. Right now, there is no reason to believe we can just put Marshall, Guzman, Hill and/or Ryu in 3 of the rotation spots and expect to have a winning record.

Yeah, it seems like Beane would make that trade as long as there wasn't a better offer on the table. Haha. Williams isn't that good. Look at what it took to land Mulder and Hudson. Well, IMO, Williams is equal to Haren and Zito is less valuable than Mulder or Hudson.

Yeah, it seems like Beane would make that trade as long as there wasn't a better offer on the table.

I'm talking about signing, not trading. And I'll only be able to trust Prior's health if he makes 30 starts this season, and that's already by the boards.

No, he's about the same as Williams. I like Guzman, but he hasn't done it in the majors yet and is injury prone. I don't count on Prior to make over 30 starts a year, so I think we need to anticipate him being on the DL for 25-50% of the season. That alone will give young guys a lot of opportunity. I'd like the top three to be filled by at least above average pitchers who typically make all of their starts.

This team will go nowhere without signing one of the top SP's this offseason. You can't have a rotation where your only reliable guy is Zambrano. I think Zito would benefit from a move to the NL. He still has a 3.55 career ERA. If not Zito, I think we need to sign one of the following: Tomo Ohka Andy Pettitte Mark Mulder