VanceJergins

Maybe we should get Wuertz up.

Uh oh, we have bad Kerry tonight.

Carlos Zambrano honestly is though You can throw the pitch count away with fat latinos. Re: Livan Hernandez, Bartolo Colon, Freddy Garcia yeah no ill effects for colon or garcia Or Livan, for that matter. To be fair, he said you can. Not that you should. And apparently all their managers agree.

I meant him keeping his pitch count down. Not defending the move one bit.

Lee needs a day off.

Marmol might even be too good to let Lou destroy him. Good inning.

I wonder how good he'll be at TJS.

Lou figures we won't need relief pitchers after the all star break.

We have a damn 4 run lead!!! Lou needs to "fall down some stairs".

I want Marmol to be a starter.

Not calling a Soto HR is more impressive ;) So does that mean you're the only stupid one here?

His HR next inning will fix that CALLED IT! Its Soto. You'd be stupid not to call it.

I don't think he'll keep it up all year, but i'm fine with him playing for now.

Peavy ruins Lilly's perfect night.

I'm pretty sure those are unearned. The catcher gets an error on the passed ball, which would have been the 3rd out. The 2 runs score after the should have been 3rd out. Gameday says earned Called it a wild pitch not a passed ball Didn't know if it was right, just passing it along.

I'm pretty sure those are unearned. The catcher gets an error on the passed ball, which would have been the 3rd out. The 2 runs score after the should have been 3rd out. Gameday says earned

what happened?

after Lilly's k, I minimized the gameday window, opened it back up a minute later and the bases were loaded, soriano up, and the blue (runs scored) button...awesome feeling.

Fukudome needs to give him the Soriano treatment.

He's making me happy!!

Hahaha

No, that's exactly the point. You said that was a possible argument, and I showed that it is a ridiculous argument. There is no manipulation in showing that Cedeno's minor league career was immensely more impressive than Fontenot's. You've done nothing to show that there are logical arguments for the things I listed. How about this: However much Cedeno's minor league numbers show he's a better prospect, Fontenot's minor and major league numbers show that he's more likely to produce this year, which is why he was projected to have better stats than Cedeno by most of the projection systems. As others have mentioned, PECOTA leads the way in that, but is joined by Bill James, Tango, and ZIPS. Add to that Fontenot has been rather unlucky with his balls put into play so far (a 27.7% LD percentage translating into a .304 BABIP) and Cedeno has been rather lucky (a 19.6% LD percentage, and he has a .400 BABIP) and that their difference in their stats is only 2-3 bloops falling for Fontenot or a couple ones caught for Cedeno. Plus if you're arguing over the last couple of weeks, you also have to add in that Fontenot is red hot while Cedeno is scuffling. I believe they are similar options hitting wise now over the course of the season thanks to Cedeno's improved approach (with Cedeno being the better overall player due to his capable defense at short) but if you're going to play one at second as part of a double switch, going with the hot hand or the left/right matchups is the way to go. Right now, that's been Fontenot quite a bit, and he probably has matched Cedeno so far this season in hitting the ball. It's just that a few more of Cedeno's have fallen in. There...that's reasonable. I still think Cedeno is a much better option, but what you said didn't make me cringe.

People want him to start against all righties. Starting him solely against the best of righties and then having the team criticize his play is pretty unfair. Not starting him against righties period is ridiculous. I agree. But that really doesn't have anything to do with my post. How so?

Jim Edmonds has never literally pissed in my cheerios.

No, that's exactly the point. You said that was a possible argument, and I showed that it is a ridiculous argument. There is no manipulation in showing that Cedeno's minor league career was immensely more impressive than Fontenot's. You've done nothing to show that there are logical arguments for the things I listed.