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NO, they don't November 25, 2003: Derrek Lee traded by the Florida Marlins to the Chicago Cubs for Hee Seop Choi and Mike Nannini (minors). Sure, we got them once. They've gotten us twice. Yes, Florida owes us one. Let's start with that kid they have at 3B. Awww, cmon you aren't still sore about 6 finger and Clement for Willis, Tavarez, Ryan Jorgeson & Jose Cueto. Dontrelle was a late round pick, 8th round of the 2000 draft (223rd overall) at the time of the trade he had never pitched above High Class A and in the FSL which is a pitcher's league. blahblah blah, blahblah blah. People hate the trade at the time.

He's an idiot because he assumed a Cubs fan came from the midwest? Yes. Why do I have to be from the midwest to be a Cubs fan? That's just stupidity. You don't have to be, but what is wrong with assuming you are? Whenever somebody sees me at a Cubs game or with Cubs gear they ask me if I'm from Chicago and/or if I just came out for the game. If you had a conversation with him about not being from the midwest and he just refused to believe you and insisted you had to be in order to be a Cubs fan, then that's stupid. But just asking if you're from the midwest because you're a Cubs fan is not stupid.

They often wait for a team to come to NY if they can. The Cubs are there in late July.

He's an idiot because he assumed a Cubs fan came from the midwest?

Why? One has to expect his end-year numbers will aggress to the career norm (or at least 2005 if not career norm). In order for that to happen, he should go on a several week tear at some point. Not really. What you might expect is that his numbers from now until the end could mirror his career averages. You wouldn't expect a hot streak, unless he was a guy who consistently got really hot in the middle of the summer. Pierre's history doesn't show any kind of trend like that. He's consistently mediocre month in and month out (June has been his worst month from 2003-2005). You would be making an enormous mistake thinking he's due for a hot streak. At this point you can't expect his 2006 totals to look like his career or even 2005. If you're lucky he will hit .276/.326/.354 the rest of the way (his 2005 numbers), but that is not a hot streak or tear, and that would still leave his overall numbers way below acceptable.

Fair!!?? It's bull. Rodgers got 20 for attacking 2 cameramen and it was reduced to 13 on appeal. 13 for a SP is like 2-3 starts. 10 for a catcher is like 7-8-9 games!!! Yeah, fair. He got 10, he can probably get it reduced to about 8. MB was completely in the wrong here. It was fun to watch, but he was dead wrong. No other Cubs got suspended or fined (although Hendry and Baker should have both been fined for their negligent treatment of one of their own players who actually stuck up for his teammate), Anderson got a nice chunk of time, and Cora got hit as well.

sounds pretty fair.

Why stop there? Why not ARod at SS too :lol: Of all the realistic scenarios for 2007 I like goony's OF of Lee, Pie and Jones / Murton. I just don't see Hendry moving JJ at all, for the reasons goony states. Trading for Abreu or Miggy would be nice, but so would peace on earth. Cubs are not exactly dealing from a position of strength. They have plenty to give up to make the deal for Miggy. Other teams have higher ranked prospects, but most of them have no interest in trading their higher ranked guys. Gallagher, Guzman, Murton and Pie could probably get you Miggy. Send Pierre back there and pay his salary, move Jones over the center and call-up whoever the heck you want to play the other corner OF spot.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-0605260233may26,1,1367054.story?coll=chi-sportsnew-hed You're also 30th in just about every other stat. Andy said the biggest need for improvement is in hitting with RISP. If he was smart he'd realize you can't go out and find guys who have an innate ability to hit with RISP. What you can find is guys who can hit, and more importantly, get on base. The more guys you have that can hit and get on base, the more opportunities your team will have with RISP. And the more opportunities you have with RISP, the more runs you will score. The Cubs are hitting .244./300/.366 overall. That's last place in AVG/OBP/SLG. With nobody on base they are hitting .242/.291/.359, with men on base they are hitting .246/.313/.375 and with RISP they are .225/.302/.363. Every single one of those stats is absolutely pathetic. There is nothing a few clutch hits can do to change the results with numbers like that. It's not clutch hitting that they need. It's not timely hitting. It's not hitting better with RISP. They need hitting in general. They're slavish devotion to toolsy athletes with speed and ball catching ability, and their continued mantra of be aggressive has left with nothing but a bunch of impatient, incompetent and impotent slappers who can't hit a lick. D Lee can't make up the difference. What is needed is complete and total regime change. Because as long as the President is foolish enough to think that a few more hits with RISP is enough to fix the problem, this team is destined for the utter failure that has defined the Cubs.

By the way, Lee would not be the cornerstone offensive presence the Cubs need. His next contract is going to backfire. Lee is 29, he turns 30 in a month. He's got a career OPS+ of 111. Last year he hit .265/.324/.487 with an OPS+ of 110. His career year at 28 he hit .305/.366/.525 with an OPS+ of 123. He's going to get a DLee type contract next season, because people will focus on the 30/100 numbers, and those are not the numbers you want to focus on. First off, any halfway decent hitter in the middle of any lineup should easily eclipse the 100 RBI number. That is no achievement, yet he's only done it twice in his career. His career average line of .284/.337/.488 is nothing to get excited over, and nothing to throw wads of cash at. Carlos Lee could help the 2006 Cubs quite a bit, but Carlos Lee's next contract is likely to bite his next GM in the butt.

Lee is a butcher.

Man, Carlos Lee would be a brutal RF. I would rather Murton play RF than Lee. You could field a pretty strong OF with Lee, Pie, Jones/Murton platoon. What we really need is a genuine, everyday, middle of the order hitter in RF so we can platoon Jones and Murton in LF. And that would be el horso. Except he doesn't stand a chance of fielding RF. Who cares with corner OF the genuine hitter plays. Murton/Jones would be the better fielding RF, Lee would provide the same offense as the hoped for RF, but he'd do it in left.

Man, Carlos Lee would be a brutal RF. I would rather Murton play RF than Lee. You could field a pretty strong OF with Lee, Pie, Jones/Murton platoon.

I think Murton would look good in a Marlins uniform with that one guy coming here. Oh, what the heck is that kid's name? The one who wears #24 for them. I would have to know this kid's time in the 40 yard dash before I consider whoever he is.

A pleasant surprise would be if management found themselves a clue and went out and got actual baseball players. If Womack comes in and has a decent season, the team is still going to suck. But they are just more likely to sign him to a god awful extension that just furthers handicaps the team.

I'd deal Murton in a deal for a young hitting stud, or if I had a series of deals lined up where a young hitting stud was coming back. Outside of that scenario, there's no way you can justify trading your only young hitter with a semblence of plate discipline.

You keep saying that, and you keep ignoring the replies. Jim Hendry wanted Jones. He's exactly the type of player Hendry looks for. Hendry is signed through 2008. The Cubs are stuck with Jones. If they were smart enough to clean house, then a new GM might be able to come in and move him. But that's not likely, so the slim chance of dealing Jones is practically zero. People say the Cubs are stuck with Jones because people realize how the Cubs work.

How much experience did Ozzie have when he took the Sox to the promise land last year? He coached with both Montreal and Florida before being named manager.

I don't understand all the infatuation with Dubois. What was so great about him? Maybe it's my frustration, but with all of our failures, I'm not sure that our farm system is very good. But I've also lost all my confidence in MacPhail/Hendry, etc,... Where was there a sign of infatuation with Dubois in that post? And who said he was great? He was a servicable RH bat with pop. I never wanted him starting on the Cubs unless they had a very good lineup around him. At the minimum salary his type of bat could be helpful for a team like this, with absolutely no threat of power.

I believe spite plays a role, but it's mainly their spite toward the modern objective analysis in the game in general, and their devotion to conventional wisdom. I think it's pretty clear they rely on stats, but it's all the wrong ones. They talked about trying to go out and find guys who hit with RISP, when in fact what they need is guys who hit in general. There is little to no correlation year over year with splits like that. Andy thinks the problem is a lack of clutch hits, when in fact the hitters are hitting in "clutch situations" about the same as they are normally, which is to say, not well. Teams can go a long way in any given year if all the pieces fall into place and guys hit career years, and have a string of magical clutchness. But that's nothing you can plan for. The Cubs seem to think they can plan the right clutch team. They seem to think that all they need is a bunch of athletes with the right mindset and they can go out and accomplish anything. It's a noble, but ignorant view of the sport of baseball. Maybe it's Hendry's college background that has him so infatuated with the rah-rah, tough guy, macho, overly aggressive idea of how to play baseball.

Has there ever been a successful manager who had absolutely zero coaching experience?

Why is Murton good all-around? He's got a decent eye and acceptable OBP. But he's got no power, no special speed, nor does he have anything special with the glove. He's been doing pretty well with everything except power since he was brought up. He skipped AAA too. There is a lot of reason to believe he will keep improving. I think he'll keep improving, but he's nowhere close to good overall right now. He's the type of guy you could easily fit into a good lineup, but with a lineup like this you have to platoon him to maximize production.

Why is Murton good all-around? He's got a decent eye and acceptable OBP. But he's got no power, no special speed, nor does he have anything special with the glove.

Give him a shot. What can it hurt at this point? I'm absolutely schocked by this development, but at this stage in the season, why wouldn't you give him a shot? He's only got 1 K as well, compared to 26 in his first 141 AB in AA.

Baseball people are absolutely petrified of criticizing one another. There are only a few acceptable targets, and they are always the guys that don't fit into the conventional wisdom area, or a player that breaks a rule. Remember, Timmy is one of the guys who thought everybody in sports should be absolutely delighted to watch Bonds move into 2nd place on the HR record list. He was in denial that 2nd place on a list is meaningless. The whole "nobody could win with these injuries" excuse is a just an obvious sign that whoever is talking isn't paying attention. It's true that nobody could win every game with these injuries. It's probably true that nobody could win 60% of the games with these injuries. But I doubt nobody could keep this team around .500, and there's very little chance anybody could do any worse of a job than Baker and Co. have done this year. A .400 winning percentage during this stretch of games would have been bad, but .400 on the season is completely unacceptable. I am somebody who never bought into the myth of Dusty from the start, and I was petrified when he was brought in. So it's going to take a lot for me to ever agree that Baker shouldn't be fired. But this lame excuse making and denial of the obvious is just getting sickening.