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  1. I honest to god think we are arguing circles around each other here. I meant exactly what I said, that I thought the OWN cameras made the event less genuine, almost by design in fact. There is nothing else to it, and I have no agenda. I honestly don't care one way or the other about him. I just made an observation about how it struck me. Smack actually was the one to bring up the cake scene being staged, FYI. I consider anyone who signs up for a reality tv show to be a little narcissistic and if Theo or Castro or Javy did it I would be annoyed by it, because seldom is reality TV based in reality. Yes, I think most understand that even Pawn Stars or American Pickers manufactures drama. Whatever, and get off my lawn why you're at it. I asked about the rumors at Mizzou because I had just heard a sports radio guy suggest it then he left it at that. Someone answered, and I didn't bring it back up. Question answered. I really have said WAY too much about a comment about how I felt about the TV show. Unless you feel like I am holding something back, in which case you should just come out and tell me what that is.
  2. ESPN cameras are there to capture a live moment. The OWN production crew was there to tape a show about him, take it back to the studio and make into the most entertaining show they can. Can you not even grant that there is a difference there? And even if you can't, will you acknowledge that I actually think people would react differently? I really wish you would sack up and actually tell me what it is I am supposedly leading to here.
  3. Nor do I, but I keep feeling the need to defend myself against...really I have no idea. I think the OWN show cheapened the moment a little. Not completely, but yeah, a little in my mind. If that makes me cynical, ok, but what exactly is the other sinister motive I have here?
  4. Holy [expletive] man. No, no no. Now you are presuming to know my motivations? Am I really defending myself as to why I felt as though the scene was a bit phony? I suppose anyone who signs up for reality TV is "attention seeking" to some degree, so yeah I guess. As to the second part, I honestly have no idea what path I am setting up. I really have no idea what you are accusing me of doing here.
  5. Ok, I think I understand that now, but I still disagree. And I think you're changing your argument a bit now, pivoting from "you're painting Sam as a gay drama queen" to "you should have known it was a bit staged to begin with". Yes, everyone acts a bit differently when they know that a camera is on them. It's human nature. But when you're starring in a show about yourself are being filmed and directed by a professional crew who's job it is to make the scene as entertaining as possible for the screen, yes, it loses some authenticity to me. For the record, I think the kiss was completely real and in the moment. It's the rest of it I'm not completely sold on.
  6. I really don't know what you're trying to say here, but I am pretty sure I completely disagree with all of this.
  7. Because that's EXACTLY what I said. Snarky, but nothing to do with what I said. Stop trying to make false arguments (again) that I'm somehow making this anything about his sexuality or that I'm bashing him. It just isn't as real to me anytime you get reality TV people involved because it's their job to milk the most out of every scene. Nothing more, nothing less. You're reaching here.
  8. Not changed feelings, but playing to the camera a bit. THERE WAS ALREADY A CAMERA CREW THERE AND WE KNEW THAT BECAUSE THEY WERE BEING TELEVISED ON TELEVISION VIA CAMERA THAT WAS MANNED BY A CREW WHOSE JOB IT IS TO CAPTURE MOVING IMAGES FOR DISPLAY ON THE SCREEN THAT'S NOT THE POINT. He signed on to do a reality show for Oprah about himself. In addition to the usual ESPN guys were cameras and producers for his show about him. It would actually surprise me if the cake wasn't completely set up by the directors, because that's the sort of thing that reality show directors do. Not bashing Sam. I just feel a little differently about the whole clip now.
  9. I'll get nachos at Petco. And more importantly, some quality beer. niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice on the beer list I clearly have never been to a badass ballpark because I've never seen a beer list like that.
  10. So, Emmanuel's office is orchestrating this now because of his pending reelection is getting closer. Am I off base here?
  11. Profound words from the mouths of babes. :-k
  12. Not changed feelings, but playing to the camera a bit.
  13. It's obvious anytime he gives an interview. I kept expecting him to be the one to go ballistic in the clubhouse but that would indicate that he still had hopes of turning things around with this team.
  14. Well, you could carry what I said to that extreme, or maybe that I'm a little disappointed that it might not be as organic a moment as I first thought. I actually was thinking as much of the weeping on the phone as the kiss. So for some reason you thought his reaction was somehow less genuine than all of the other televised reactions we see just because there were some OTHER cameras there? Pretty sure someone is going to be tremendously emotional on one of the biggest days of his life. Maybe I am just a cynical bastard, but yes, it seems less authentic now. Gay or straight or the kiss has nothing to do with it.
  15. Well, you could carry what I said to that extreme, or maybe that I'm a little disappointed that it might not be as organic a moment as I first thought. I actually was thinking as much of the weeping on the phone as the kiss. Because the first time you saw it you assumed it was hidden camera footage, or that there were no cameras at all? Naively maybe, but I just thought he was like any draft pick who had ESPN cameras in the room, not OWN reality show cameras and producers. And seriously, I didn't have any strong reaction to the kiss, but the weeping during the Rams call sort of struck me at the time. Now it seems a little staged, or at least a little overly dramatic.
  16. Well, you could carry what I said to that extreme, or maybe that I'm a little disappointed that it might not be as organic a moment as I first thought. I actually was thinking as much of the weeping on the phone as the kiss.
  17. Given his struggles (how do you not win ONE game by now) has anybody considered maybe his vision is failing him? I mean I'm not saying it's true, but I'm saying it might be true. Dude just looks blind out there on the mound. He was squinting when looking in for his signs from Welly. The splits between humid games where his hair gets all sweaty and stays out of his eyes vs. dry games where it's whipping in his face are dramatic. :D
  18. Minneapolis gets awarded SB 52 in 2018, dammit. I thought we were going to get it to coincide with the 300 year anniversary of the city. That stadium looks like it is going to be incredible, but at some point a winter storm is going to bite the NFL in the ass.
  19. Archie Manning 2.0 Exactly, except now the defenses are manned by monsters who weigh 250+ and run a 4.4.
  20. In the end, we never may know what kind of QB Manziel would have become because he's going to spend half his time on the DL after getting pulverized week after week. Then the shitty thing is we'll have to listen to all the JFF fans who will be telling us how he was on his way to becoming a star until the injuries.
  21. I'm guessing it went something like, "Stop the show or you're cut." Anticlimactic now, but it has been reported that the film crew was in the room filming the now famous scene when he found out the Rams were selecting him. What seemed like a wonderful, spontaneous moment now seems much cheaper and manufactured.
  22. Yeah, but it was a dive before they got there and it will be a dive when they decide it's become too mainstream and move on the the next one. I hate all of them. Faux dive. If you only knew...
  23. Yeah, but it was a dive before they got there and it will be a dive when they decide it's become too mainstream and move on the the next one. I hate all of them.
  24. I'll bet anything this guy's name is Linus or something equally douchey. People like this have "discovered" my neighborhood bar and they must be stopped. "Do you guys carry Idaho Organic Huckleberry IPA?" "The bar hasn't been painted in 40 years. STFU!"
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