Rob

Oh, if only the Royals were in contention... I sure could go for Alex Gordon.

Petitte can't get the ball in the zone, and Jones goes up there swinging from his heels... Jeez.

Called strike 3 on Berkman.

I don't feel like creating a topic, but Bob Wickman went to the Braves for Max Ramirez ©. Are the Braves really gonna try to make a run?

I really don't like Milledge that much, in response to the previous two offers.

Trade him with a secret agreement in place for him to opt out after this season and resign with the cubs. :wink:

Ok, I hardly mean to be rude, but how can you propose not taking into effect the efforts of their peers, but then go spouting off OPS+ and league averages? What you're using are simply crude metrics compared to WARP. But even if you want to play your way... Santo's career OPS+ is 125, Sosa's 129. Then factor in defensive ability. By all accounts, Santo was an excellent defender. Sammy was, at his best, slightly above average. Over the years, Santo definately would come out on top in value. 4 points of OPS+ is nowhere near enough to cover the difference in defensive value. And Santo is still an icon for sportsfans everywhere. Just as Sammy came out of the Dominican and took the Latin world by storm... Santo was one of the first professional athletes to come out and let the world know he had diabetes. He was an inspiration to sick children with dreams of batting in game seven of the world series. But where Sosa has failed to live up to his billing as a role model, Santo has continued to excell in his for decades now. Nobody save perhaps Ernie Banks has ever shown the adolescent love of baseball and the Cubs that Santo has. Oh, and back to stats...this is Santo's rank in OPS... 1964 - 2 1965 - 6 1966 - 4 1967 - 6 I'd say he had a pretty good stretch where he was feared too. And damnit, he deserves respect for it.

That's what the numbers say. Though Santo has played in 3 more games than Sosa... so if Sosa were to go 16 for 16 with 16 HRs, maybe he'd take it up to about even.

Yup. According to FRAA, Santo was worth 108 runs above average on defense during his career. Sosa was 11 above average at a less demanding position over the course of his career.

Already did. =P

Can't hurt.

Career WARP3 (Wins Above Replacement Player, adjusted for 162 games and league difficulty) Anson - 162.9 Banks - 129.3 Jenkins - 121.5 Santo - 119.1 Williams - 116.7 Sandberg - 114.5 Hartnett - 109.9 Sosa - 103.6 Brown - 71.9 Turns out, Sosa actually isn't top 5. And Anson got screwed... badly. And taking out those few seasons where some of the guys played in other cities isn't enough to put him over the top, either... though I imagine Jenkins would drop off the top 5.

Per Rotoworld Anybody remember the call? Edit: Def. put this in the wrong forum. Can I get a move?

Can't start with anybody other than... 1. Bench 2. Berra 3. Campy 4. Piazza 5. Cochrane 6. Fisk 7. Gabby Hartnett 8. Gary Carter 9. Ted Simmons 10. Ernie Lombardi Lombardi might not belong on the list... but that's only because the infielders were playing him in the outfield. If he would have gotten a normal infield defense, he'd have been as much of a monster as his size would suggest.

Struck out looking, dude.

Gonna try to let them top 11 runs in an inning already? Damn.

Anybody else having the strangest urge to watch Major League 2?

Fred, MLB Gameday is saying 0 ER for Novoa.

And Joe Torre is a catcher?

Quick recap: I deserve a good, solid, asskicking.

Wow... horrible.

Here are a couple of key points on the trade market that can benefit us. 1. Morgan Ensberg is on the outs in Houston since the Huff trade. 2. Pat Burrell is on the outs in Philly. Now, I'm not so stupid as to think we could get a guy like Burrell for a guy like Hill. There's PR to take into account, and the Phillies need back a good MLB guy. The same is especially true of Ensberg in Houston. I'd propose we give up Juan Pierre and a B level prospect (Marmol, Dopirak, Moore?) for Ensberg. It would solve Houston's CF problem and give them another piece... so I think that might be able to get it done. Over in Philly, I say we trade them Aramis for either Burrell and plenty of cash... or for Abreu and a bit of cash. Gillick has been trying to unload both of them, and this is such a huge upgrade at 3B I imagine it'd be an acceptible trade. Anybody else think this is a decent idea? It'd set up our OF next season (Burrell, Pie, Jones or Jones, Pie, Abreu) and we would basically be swapping Aramis for Ensberg. I don't know which player you would prefer, but the difference between them is negligible compared to the difference between our OF and what would be the new one.

Renteria in the 5 hole, with Wright and Utley behind him... really?

I guess it is true... Nice guys finish last (in the NL Central)

There's hardly anything wrong with that... Lofton's prime: 1992 - WARP 7.2 1993 - WARP 7.0 1994 - WARP 7.0 For comparison, let's take a look at some Indians' hitters from last year. Travis Hafner - WARP 7.2 Victor Martinez - WARP 7.2 Grady Sizemore - WARP 7.0 I don't know about you, but I'd kill for any of those three.