Why are Cook and Williams's failure Self's fault. Is it possible they just weren't good enough to make an impact in the NBA? Also, I'd need to see evidence they "didn't get any better" other than you just saying so. It's not like I don't understand the bitterness. I was furious when Roy left. And personally, I think Roy's situation was harder on our fans. He'd already rejected UNC once. He left right afer 2 final fours, when the program was really gaining momentum. And he went to a school most fans consider a rival. But I'm over it at this point. I don't root for UNC, but I've never rooted for them. I did root for him to win the NC, though, because he did a lot for our school. I still think it was a crappy thing to bolt for UNC, but I realize he thinks it's a better job, and he thought he'd be happier there. So more power to him. I'm just tired of the Self/KU bashing from Illini fans. They always talk about how they got a better coach, hown they're in better hands now with Weber. If they really believe that, the should just let it go. Just my opinion.