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I wonder if he will blame dodger fans' towel waving for his injury

pretty much

Strange, thats what the 2015 Grey's Sports Almanac lists as the top 3 vote getters for NL Cy Young this year. well done

No problem.. didn't even realize he hadn't had one until I noticed how few Tweets he had on his account. Nice picture of him and the wife, I presume? He's got his Rush shirt on. Are they at Red Rocks? why would he put that at his profile photo and not some awesome shot of him standing next to michael jordan???

Felt the same way there for a couple of seconds. He was a great manager as long as that talent he had stayed together or were not injured. no he was not a great manager and he was responsible for injuring some of his pitchers.

marshall has pitched 153 games in relief and 16 games as starter in the last 3 years. last year he relieved in 80 games and started none, and was very effective. the whole starter/reliever decision is done.

because he got drilled by the [expletive] pirates, not because dusty was being responsible.

They are. Nobody's arguing that the outing didn't wind up adversely impacting Harang. The issues are, a) was this reasonably foreseeable, and b) were there better options available. The answer to a) is, basically no. The answer to b) is, using the next day's starter is the only real viable one IMO, and even then it's a highly debatable point. oh i see, it was not reasonably foreseeable to think that having a guy throw 62 pitches on two days' rest after throwing 100+ pitches in his last outing might be rendered injured or less effective in subsequent starts.

lol yeah statistics before and after the game in question are completely worthless to the discussion. let's stick to tangible things like what lessons the team will learn from the manager's actions.

maybe his name is davearm2 because he REALLY wants us to think he has two arms because he is j. walter weatherman, kind of conveying important messages if i were an approved joke-rater, this post would have gotten a very high score.

plus a manager (tony larussa) chose option c) LAST YEAR, and his team looked to have a much better chance at the division than dusty's crappy reds against the very good 2008 cubs.

just to review this post. like half of NSBB has suggested good alternatives to your options (which was faulty - bray pitched fewer than 2 innings), like not blowing through the bullpen like a complete spaz, using a utility infielder (who isn't valuable) to pitch, not managing the game like it's a must-win since the team is already 6.5 games behind and that extra win is very unlikely to matter at the end of the year, and using the next day's starter rather than your best starter who happens two nights removed from throwing 100+ pitches. yet you continue to insist that dusty went with his only real option available.

no, the fact that they finished 23.5 games behind the cubs made that game meaningless. 2008 stats going into that game: 3.50 ERA, .736 OPS against stats after that game: 5.88 ERA, .919 OPS against and the pitcher said that he felt different after that game.

What about the message that the manager cares more about winning a nearly meaningless game for his bad baseball team than he does about the health of one of his top players?

dude, tony larussa used two position players in a game last year without resorting to using another starting pitcher. there are a number of managers who are good, smart managers and understand that winning one regular season is less important than the health and effectiveness of one of their best starting pitchers. let's also remember that josh fogg - not exactly a guy with a great arm and a bright future - threw eight pitches during extra innings. they ran into this problem because dusty managed the game like a complete spaz without a backup option, and then ended up boxing himself into a corner. davearm, you may want to skip this part because it involves some math - let's make the rudimentary assumption that using harang gave the reds a win expectancy of 50%. if they don't use him, i'll be generous to your side and say there's no chance they win (which obviously isn't true - whatever position player the reds hypothetically used could allow no runs, or their offense could score more runs in the top of their inning than the padres score in the bottom). so under this generous assumption, the reds expect to have an extra half win for the year. what's more likely, that the extra half win would be the difference between the reds - who at the time the game was played (late may) were already 4 games under .500 and 6 games behind the cubs - making and missing the playoffs? or that one of the starting pitchers they used in extra innings would suffer negative effects from it and either become less effective or injured (or both)?

I did. UPDATE: he was not receptive fantastic job trolling @thekapman, kudos. i also like how he tweets that his flight is going to take off soon so he has to turn off his phone, like people are just anxiously awaiting what he has to say next.

not use one of your best starting pitchers after he threw 100+ pitches like 2 nights earlier. put in a reserve outfielder or utility infielder and have them pitch until you (presumably) lose. this isn't game seven of the world series, it's a game in may between two bad baseball teams. whether the reds won or lost basically did not matter.

so you're saying that doc rivers designed those jerseys?

grady sizemore wasn't that good in 2008 and was bad/hurt all of last year, and had microfracture surgery, which is a really big deal. nobody is giving him a mega-deal.

holy cross is 0-10 in games decided by 4 points or less. that's hard to do.

According to today's Hollinger ratings, here are championship odds: Spurs 22.9% Heat 21.4% Magic 11.1% Bulls 9.9% Celtics 9.5% Lakers 8.6% Mavericks 5.9% Thunder 2.5% Hornets 2.0% Sixers, Grizzlies, Nuggets 1-2% Blazers, Suns, Knicks, Rockets, Pacers 0.1-1% the sixers do not have a 1-2% chance of winning a championship. maybe a 1-2% chance of beating whoever they would play in the first round if they made the playoffs.

i believe you mean makes it threw ST

i'm just hoping he's able to through that mid 90s heat again.

Or it's just a ridiculous sum of money to those making middle-class wages. I certainly don't begrudge certain classes of people for what they make as it is what the market will bear. However, I just can't empathize with someone making $10 million dollars a year wanting to make $20 million. I want my bills to get paid on time. you don't really have to empathize with it as long as you understand it. you're talking about someone who lives a very wealthy lifestyle and would like to continue to do so for the remainder of their life... when you consider how much they lose to taxes, a personal trainer, nutritionist, agent, etc, they lose a pretty good chunk of that every year, and their potential to earn mega-bucks playing basically is basically done by age 40. albert pujols isn't worrying about how to pay his bills; he hasn't worried about that since his first year in the major leagues. plus guys just basically want to get paid what the market determines they are worth (unless they're negotiating with jim hendry, then they want more).

kane was the same way last year, this isn't something new.