More Brad Wilkerson talk

[JeffH]

Sing has essentially zero trade value.

 

That's not exactly true. You can trade the right for another team to put him in the minors. That's a luxury they don't get if they take him in the Rule 5 draft.

 

I think his point was that at some juncture this offseason, anyone could have had Sing for free, and they all passed. Might've been because he's a 6 year minor league FA.

 

Right. Re-post:

 

Sing was a six-year minor league free agent. Any team could have offered to sign him and put him on their 40-man roster. It doesn't seem as though any team made him such an offer. I suppose it's possible that a team did and Sing said, "No thanks. I'd rather stay with my hometown team even though they don't value me enough to roster me.", but that seems extremely unlikely. If that did happen, a team could take him in the Rule 5 draft "against his wishes", but that seems truly far-fetched.

[Diffusion]

Sing has essentially zero trade value.

 

That's not exactly true. You can trade the right for another team to put him in the minors. That's a luxury they don't get if they take him in the Rule 5 draft.

 

I think his point was that at some juncture this offseason, anyone could have had Sing for free, and they all passed. Might've been because he's a 6 year minor league FA.

 

I remember hearing that other teams did indeed want Sing, but he prefered to re-sign with the Cubs to a minor league deal. Or maybe I'm making that up.

 

Rotoworld thinks that there's a 60% chance that Sing gets selected in the Rule 5 draft, for what that's worth.

[A New Era]

If it's Williams for Wilkerson I'd do it and get RF over with. In my perfect world we would then get Lugo for SS and Bradley for CF.

 

Then hopefully enough left over for a class B SP.

[Diffusion]

Sing has essentially zero trade value.

 

That's not exactly true. You can trade the right for another team to put him in the minors. That's a luxury they don't get if they take him in the Rule 5 draft.

 

I think his point was that at some juncture this offseason, anyone could have had Sing for free, and they all passed. Might've been because he's a 6 year minor league FA.

 

Right. Re-post:

 

Sing was a six-year minor league free agent. Any team could have offered to sign him and put him on their 40-man roster. It doesn't seem as though any team made him such an offer. I suppose it's possible that a team did and Sing said, "No thanks. I'd rather stay with my hometown team even though they don't value me enough to roster me.", but that seems extremely unlikely. If that did happen, a team could take him in the Rule 5 draft "against his wishes", but that seems truly far-fetched.

 

Is it not possible that at the time Sing re-signed, he didn't know that he wasn't going to be rostered?

[treebird]

I can't get Cot's to load, but I'm pretty sure that Zito's deal has another two years to run. As such, I don't think an extension is essential to any deal. The Phillies have time yet.

 

Barry will be a free agent after next season.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I can't get Cot's to load, but I'm pretty sure that Zito's deal has another two years to run. As such, I don't think an extension is essential to any deal. The Phillies have time yet.

 

Zito's a FA after '06.

[Diffusion]

I can't get Cot's to load, but I'm pretty sure that Zito's deal has another two years to run. As such, I don't think an extension is essential to any deal. The Phillies have time yet.

 

Barry will be a free agent after next season.

 

No team option?

 

Maybe I remember wrong.

 

I'm useless without Cot's.

[JeffH]

Is it not possible that at the time Sing re-signed, he didn't know that he wasn't going to be rostered?

 

I suppose so, but, if he did, he's pretty stupid.

[Diffusion]

Is it not possible that at the time Sing re-signed, he didn't know that he wasn't going to be rostered?

 

I suppose so, but, if he did, he's pretty stupid.

 

Or loyal. He's from Joliet, Illinois, I'm pretty sure the story when he re-signed was that he didn't want to go anywhere else, he wanted to try and make it with the Cubs, and that he knocked back offers to see that happen. If I'm remembering this completely wrong, someone please point it out.

 

Of course, ideally, the Cubs would repay that loyalty.

[JeffH]

I suppose so, but, if he did, he's pretty stupid.

 

Or loyal.

 

These two traits are not mutually exclusive.

[badger1679666666]

I suppose so, but, if he did, he's pretty stupid.

 

Or loyal.

 

These two traits are not mutually exclusive.

 

Correct. See Todd Walker. Loyal and Stupid.

[Diffusion]

I suppose so, but, if he did, he's pretty stupid.

 

Or loyal.

 

These two traits are not mutually exclusive.

 

The point is, regardless of what you think about player loyalty, and personally I think it's all too rare a thing these days, that Sing re-signed with the Cubs doesn't prove your point about no other teams wanting him and his value therefore being essentially zero.

[nilodnayr]

Is it not possible that at the time Sing re-signed, he didn't know that he wasn't going to be rostered?

 

I suppose so, but, if he did, he's pretty stupid.

 

Or loyal. He's from Joliet, Illinois, I'm pretty sure the story when he re-signed was that he didn't want to go anywhere else, he wanted to try and make it with the Cubs, and that he knocked back offers to see that happen. If I'm remembering this completely wrong, someone please point it out.

 

Of course, ideally, the Cubs would repay that loyalty.

 

I remember that as well.