Bradley........no thanks

[nilodnayr]

I'd go after Bradley especially if the cost is low. Now I do remember hearing that he was hurt and wouldn't be able to play for awhile so that shuld decrease the cost a lot IMO. While he is on the mend the Cubs can see if Murton is the real deal and if Murton is it wouldn't hurt to have 4 good OF's for once assuming that the Cubs get an impact bat for right. If Murton is struggling he can move to the 4th OF and Bradley can go to CF or LF depending on who the Cubs have for CF.

 

All reports now say he will be ready by spring training.

[CuseCubFan69]

I'd go after Bradley especially if the cost is low. Now I do remember hearing that he was hurt and wouldn't be able to play for awhile so that shuld decrease the cost a lot IMO. While he is on the mend the Cubs can see if Murton is the real deal and if Murton is it wouldn't hurt to have 4 good OF's for once assuming that the Cubs get an impact bat for right. If Murton is struggling he can move to the 4th OF and Bradley can go to CF or LF depending on who the Cubs have for CF.

 

All reports now say he will be ready by spring training.

 

I'd still do it and if LA wants to move Lowe even better.

[RynoRules]

Guys, he beat up his pregnantg wife! This isn't your avg. malcontent. I'd rather have three T.O.s on the team.

[2242005CY]

I'd take Bradley over Pierre in a heartbeat. Especially if the Cubs signed Furcal.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Wow, I didn't know about the pregnant wife thing. Somethings are more important then winning baseball games. I'd never sign a guy like that.

[CuseCubFan69]

Guys, he beat up his pregnantg wife! This isn't your avg. malcontent. I'd rather have three T.O.s on the team.

 

What do you mean he beat up his pregnant wife? Do you have the info for this?

 

I know a guy that was an idiot but this is what happened when he got charged with a felony. He was arguing with his wife wife and threw an empty beer can at her. She picked up the kid to protect herself from getting hit, the can hit the kid and he got charged and convicted for a felony.

 

After this, I want to know what happened when someone is accused of or even convicted of a crime. There are just too many rumors out there that snowball into something bigger for some strange reason.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Guys, he beat up his pregnantg wife! This isn't your avg. malcontent. I'd rather have three T.O.s on the team.

 

What do you mean he beat up his pregnant wife? Do you have the info for this?

 

I know a guy that was an idiot but this is what happened when he got charged with a felony. He was arguing with his wife wife and threw an empty beer can at her. She picked up the kid to protect herself from getting hit, the can hit the kid and he got charged and convicted for a felony.

 

After this, I want to know what happened when someone is accused of or even convicted of a crime. There are just too many rumors out there that snowball into something bigger for some strange reason.

 

The same guys saying we should wait to judge Hendry have already tried and convicted Bradley based on tertiary information. :lol:

 

Personally, I can't see Bradley pulling the malcontent act around a good clubhouse, which by all accounts, the 2005 clubhouse was.

[Jehrico]

I can see your point but I have to say I would like Bradley more than some of the characters we had in 2005. I cannot remember a Cubs team I disliked more than the 2005 version.

 

The 2005 version wore me out too.

 

Bradley has wore out his welcome with Cleveland and the Dodgers............can't imagine why Chicago would be any different

 

I didn't have that much of a problem with the 2005 team themselves...just the piss poor management of the team. Neifi and Macias batting 1 and 2? Neifi and Corey? The blatant misuse of the pen? The absolute lack of fundamentals on the team? They obviously weren't prepared coming out of ST, and never did get over the hump.

 

We were better than our record showed in '05. Not good enough to overtake the Cardinals, but at least wild card contenders, if the team was managed properly and prepared for the season. The '04 team, however, whined alot more and choked down the stretch.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Bradley did not "wear out his welcome" in Cleveland. I lived there during his time there, the fans didn't hate him, and he wasn't in bad graces with management. He was traded because he reached arbitration on a tight payroll team that had Sizemore ready to take his place.

[NCCubFan]

Me personally, I don't care if they are lovable or not. I prefer "the most loathed WS Champs ever" to "lovable losers," but that's just me.

No, it's definitely not just you. I could care less how loved they are if they can win the World Series. They could be like the 1970s A's, and that would be fine with me if the results are the same.

[David]

I can see your point but I have to say I would like Bradley more than some of the characters we had in 2005. I cannot remember a Cubs team I disliked more than the 2005 version.

 

The 2005 version wore me out too.

 

Bradley has wore out his welcome with Cleveland and the Dodgers............can't imagine why Chicago would be any different

 

I didn't have that much of a problem with the 2005 team themselves...just the piss poor management of the team. Neifi and Macias batting 1 and 2? Neifi and Corey? The blatant misuse of the pen? The absolute lack of fundamentals on the team? They obviously weren't prepared coming out of ST, and never did get over the hump.

 

We were better than our record showed in '05. Not good enough to overtake the Cardinals, but at least wild card contenders, if the team was managed properly and prepared for the season. The '04 team, however, whined alot more and choked down the stretch.

 

I'll have to argue with this. Regardless of whining or anything else, the 2004 team was far better both on paper and performance wise. There's no question about that. A lot of bad luck, including tons of games in a row with no offday, some blown saves, and basically slumping for the last week of the season cost them the playoffs. Add to that the fact that the Cardinals came out of nowhere to be great, so they couldn't just win a bad division like in 03 and then let the pitching carry them.

 

Despite all that, sad as it is to say, they had the most wins (albeit by one game) of any Cubs team since 1998.

 

I'd gladly take the 2004 team over what we had this year, or basically any team we've had in recent memory.

[Jehrico]

I can see your point but I have to say I would like Bradley more than some of the characters we had in 2005. I cannot remember a Cubs team I disliked more than the 2005 version.

 

The 2005 version wore me out too.

 

Bradley has wore out his welcome with Cleveland and the Dodgers............can't imagine why Chicago would be any different

 

I didn't have that much of a problem with the 2005 team themselves...just the piss poor management of the team. Neifi and Macias batting 1 and 2? Neifi and Corey? The blatant misuse of the pen? The absolute lack of fundamentals on the team? They obviously weren't prepared coming out of ST, and never did get over the hump.

 

We were better than our record showed in '05. Not good enough to overtake the Cardinals, but at least wild card contenders, if the team was managed properly and prepared for the season. The '04 team, however, whined alot more and choked down the stretch.

 

I'll have to argue with this. Regardless of whining or anything else, the 2004 team was far better both on paper and performance wise. There's no question about that. A lot of bad luck, including tons of games in a row with no offday, some blown saves, and basically slumping for the last week of the season cost them the playoffs. Add to that the fact that the Cardinals came out of nowhere to be great, so they couldn't just win a bad division like in 03 and then let the pitching carry them.

 

Despite all that, sad as it is to say, they had the most wins (albeit by one game) of any Cubs team since 1998.

 

I'd gladly take the 2004 team over what we had this year, or basically any team we've had in recent memory.

 

I wasn't referring to the 2005 team being better than the 2004 team, I was referencing the disappointment of watching the teams. The outcome of the 2004 team, especially after all of the whining, and the choking down the stretch, made them harder to watch, and more disappointing than the 2005 team. I didn't mean to imply they weren't as good.

[cubbyvirus00]

I like what Bradley might bring to this team. A fighting spirit, playing with emotion, and caring about the outcome of games.

[RynoRules]

Guys, he beat up his pregnantg wife! This isn't your avg. malcontent. I'd rather have three T.O.s on the team.

 

What do you mean he beat up his pregnant wife? Do you have the info for this?

 

I know a guy that was an idiot but this is what happened when he got charged with a felony. He was arguing with his wife wife and threw an empty beer can at her. She picked up the kid to protect herself from getting hit, the can hit the kid and he got charged and convicted for a felony.

 

After this, I want to know what happened when someone is accused of or even convicted of a crime. There are just too many rumors out there that snowball into something bigger for some strange reason.

 

Here is what happended:

 

Redondo Beach officers went to outfielder's house three times because of reports of domestic violence. No charges have been filed.

By Larry Altman

Daily Breeze

 

Police have responded to the Redondo Beach home of Los Angeles Dodgers outfielder Milton Bradley three times this summer on domestic violence calls, including one instance in which he allegedly choked his pregnant wife, bloodied her lip and hurled a cellular telephone into a wall.

 

The record of domestic discord is the latest revelation to dog the embattled center fielder, who last year was ordered to undergo anger management sessions following his suspension for charging a fan in the stands. Bradley recently ignited controversy when he said second baseman Jeff Kent could not deal with black people.

 

Responses and apologies would be appreciated.

 

And I still don't want him.

[David]

I can see your point but I have to say I would like Bradley more than some of the characters we had in 2005. I cannot remember a Cubs team I disliked more than the 2005 version.

 

The 2005 version wore me out too.

 

Bradley has wore out his welcome with Cleveland and the Dodgers............can't imagine why Chicago would be any different

 

I didn't have that much of a problem with the 2005 team themselves...just the piss poor management of the team. Neifi and Macias batting 1 and 2? Neifi and Corey? The blatant misuse of the pen? The absolute lack of fundamentals on the team? They obviously weren't prepared coming out of ST, and never did get over the hump.

 

We were better than our record showed in '05. Not good enough to overtake the Cardinals, but at least wild card contenders, if the team was managed properly and prepared for the season. The '04 team, however, whined alot more and choked down the stretch.

 

I'll have to argue with this. Regardless of whining or anything else, the 2004 team was far better both on paper and performance wise. There's no question about that. A lot of bad luck, including tons of games in a row with no offday, some blown saves, and basically slumping for the last week of the season cost them the playoffs. Add to that the fact that the Cardinals came out of nowhere to be great, so they couldn't just win a bad division like in 03 and then let the pitching carry them.

 

Despite all that, sad as it is to say, they had the most wins (albeit by one game) of any Cubs team since 1998.

 

I'd gladly take the 2004 team over what we had this year, or basically any team we've had in recent memory.

 

I wasn't referring to the 2005 team being better than the 2004 team, I was referencing the disappointment of watching the teams. The outcome of the 2004 team, especially after all of the whining, and the choking down the stretch, made them harder to watch, and more disappointing than the 2005 team. I didn't mean to imply they weren't as good.

 

Agreed. I misinterpreted what you said. Still, up until that final week, I definitely enjoyed 2004. To think they should've won 92-94 games despite the injuries to Prior and Wood. Pretty impressive.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

ALLEGEDLY

 

Also in that article:

 

No charges were filed against Bradley or his wife stemming from any of the three police responses. In two of the cases, police officers counseled the couple. In a third, Bradley was not home when police arrived.

 

A police report was submitted to the district attorney's branch office in Torrance, but prosecutor Mary Suzukawa rejected filing charges against Bradley.

 

According to the report, Bradley identified himself as a professional baseball player and said his wife had battered him because she suspected him of cheating on her. He described her as upset and said she hit him and scratched him.

 

And most importantly, the "beating" of his pregnant wife:

 

Bradley's wife, who was four months pregnant at the time, told officers she and her husband had argued about "relationship issues." Bradley, she said, grabbed her right hand and pushed it against her mouth, causing her to hit herself. The inside of her lip began to bleed, the crime report said.

 

He then grabbed her cellular telephone from a bedroom table and threw it toward a wall. The phone hit a headboard, struck the wall and shattered into several pieces, the report said.

 

Bradley picked up the phone and walked into the hallway, followed by his wife.

 

"Victim said her husband turned around and used his right forearm and pushed her against the wall," an officer wrote. "Victim stated (Bradley's) forearm was against her throat and she was having a difficult time breathing."

[RynoRules]

Bradley did not "wear out his welcome" in Cleveland. I lived there during his time there, the fans didn't hate him, and he wasn't in bad graces with management. He was traded because he reached arbitration on a tight payroll team that had Sizemore ready to take his place.

 

:?: Didn't he and Skinner but heads?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Bradley did not "wear out his welcome" in Cleveland. I lived there during his time there, the fans didn't hate him, and he wasn't in bad graces with management. He was traded because he reached arbitration on a tight payroll team that had Sizemore ready to take his place.

 

:?: Didn't he and Skinner but heads?

 

Not to my knowledge. If they did it certainly wasn't a big issue.

[RynoRules]

ALLEGEDLY

 

Also in that article:

 

No charges were filed against Bradley or his wife stemming from any of the three police responses. In two of the cases, police officers counseled the couple. In a third, Bradley was not home when police arrived.

 

A police report was submitted to the district attorney's branch office in Torrance, but prosecutor Mary Suzukawa rejected filing charges against Bradley.

 

According to the report, Bradley identified himself as a professional baseball player and said his wife had battered him because she suspected him of cheating on her. He described her as upset and said she hit him and scratched him.

 

And most importantly, the "beating" of his pregnant wife:

 

Bradley's wife, who was four months pregnant at the time, told officers she and her husband had argued about "relationship issues." Bradley, she said, grabbed her right hand and pushed it against her mouth, causing her to hit herself. The inside of her lip began to bleed, the crime report said.

 

He then grabbed her cellular telephone from a bedroom table and threw it toward a wall. The phone hit a headboard, struck the wall and shattered into several pieces, the report said.

 

Bradley picked up the phone and walked into the hallway, followed by his wife.

 

"Victim said her husband turned around and used his right forearm and pushed her against the wall," an officer wrote. "Victim stated (Bradley's) forearm was against her throat and she was having a difficult time breathing."[/quote]

 

What would you call this? A gentle love tap? He choked her and bloodied her lip. My wife (who is pregnant) and I have argued since she became pregnant, and some how I have managed to not assault or batter her. Go look up the definition of a "battery" if you want to see what I mean.

 

And everything is "alleged" (including most of the rumors we discuss on this bd.), but when a person has a history of violent conduct as Bradley does, it is more likely to be true.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

it sounds like Mrs. Bradley is guilty of assault. :wink:

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Actually I would suggest turning to this thread:

 

http://mb10.scout.com/foaklandathleticsfrm1.showMessageRange?topicID=9182.topic&start=61&stop=80

 

Alot of the links in there and police reports make it seem like his wife was the aggressor at least one time (June 28th). There is reason to believe that in the third incident, since he didn't go to jail that maybe he wasn't the aggressor either.

 

I also learned Bobby Cox is also a "wife beater," I wonder how many baseball fans know that? How many would care if he came over to the Cubs to manage? Wouldn't you guys worry he'd give guys lessons or "ruin clubhouse chemisty?"

 

Personally I'd love Bradley here. I said it on MLBCenter, and I saw it here: beggars can't be choosers. He's the best combo of youth, availability, and production of any CFer out there, and we shouldn't be so stupid to close the door on something NONE OF US know for sure.

 

If I worry about anything with Bradley, its the durability issue.

[Jehrico]

Actually I would suggest turning to this thread:

 

http://mb10.scout.com/foaklandathleticsfrm1.showMessageRange?topicID=9182.topic&start=61&stop=80

 

Alot of the links in there and police reports make it seem like his wife was the aggressor at least one time (June 28th). There is reason to believe that in the third incident, since he didn't go to jail that maybe he wasn't the aggressor either.

 

I also learned Bobby Cox is also a "wife beater," I wonder how many baseball fans know that? How many would care if he came over to the Cubs to manage? Wouldn't you guys worry he'd give guys lessons or "ruin clubhouse chemisty?"

 

Personally I'd love Bradley here. I said it on MLBCenter, and I saw it here: beggars can't be choosers. He's the best combo of youth, availability, and production of any CFer out there, and we shouldn't be so stupid to close the door on something NONE OF US know for sure.

 

If I worry about anything with Bradley, its the durability issue.

 

It sounds like they're quite the disfunctional couple. Probably some blame to go on both sides. Bradley is certainly no angel, but it's possible he isn't as bad as he's been villified to be. I don't know.

[YearofDaCubs]

Make Baker earn his paycheck for once. I rather have Bradley here over Pierre no question. Make the trade Hendry.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Actually I would suggest turning to this thread:

 

http://mb10.scout.com/foaklandathleticsfrm1.showMessageRange?topicID=9182.topic&start=61&stop=80

 

Alot of the links in there and police reports make it seem like his wife was the aggressor at least one time (June 28th). There is reason to believe that in the third incident, since he didn't go to jail that maybe he wasn't the aggressor either.

 

I also learned Bobby Cox is also a "wife beater," I wonder how many baseball fans know that? How many would care if he came over to the Cubs to manage? Wouldn't you guys worry he'd give guys lessons or "ruin clubhouse chemisty?"

 

Personally I'd love Bradley here. I said it on MLBCenter, and I saw it here: beggars can't be choosers. He's the best combo of youth, availability, and production of any CFer out there, and we shouldn't be so stupid to close the door on something NONE OF US know for sure.

 

If I worry about anything with Bradley, its the durability issue.

 

It sounds like they're quite the disfunctional couple. Probably some blame to go on both sides. Bradley is certainly no angel, but it's possible he isn't as bad as he's been villified to be. I don't know.

 

It is unfair to blame Mr. Bradley for the whole incident. He is an off-the-field risk, but I'd still like to see him in Chicago. His health is my biggest concern, but the on-the-field upside he brings is too big to ignore, especially since he could be had for a used jockstrap right now. If he doesn't work out, just make sure we have a backup plan in CF. Pie wouldn't be too horrible of a failsafe if we acquire a big bat in RF, which is certainly doable given the low cost of Bradley.

[RynoRules]

Actually I would suggest turning to this thread:

 

http://mb10.scout.com/foaklandathleticsfrm1.showMessageRange?topicID=9182.topic&start=61&stop=80

 

Alot of the links in there and police reports make it seem like his wife was the aggressor at least one time (June 28th). There is reason to believe that in the third incident, since he didn't go to jail that maybe he wasn't the aggressor either.

 

I also learned Bobby Cox is also a "wife beater," I wonder how many baseball fans know that? How many would care if he came over to the Cubs to manage? Wouldn't you guys worry he'd give guys lessons or "ruin clubhouse chemisty?"

 

Personally I'd love Bradley here. I said it on MLBCenter, and I saw it here: beggars can't be choosers. He's the best combo of youth, availability, and production of any CFer out there, and we shouldn't be so stupid to close the door on something NONE OF US know for sure.

 

If I worry about anything with Bradley, its the durability issue.

 

It sounds like they're quite the disfunctional couple. Probably some blame to go on both sides. Bradley is certainly no angel, but it's possible he isn't as bad as he's been villified to be. I don't know.

 

It is unfair to blame Mr. Bradley for the whole incident. He is an off-the-field risk, but I'd still like to see him in Chicago. His health is my biggest concern, but the on-the-field upside he brings is too big to ignore, especially since he could be had for a used jockstrap right now. If he doesn't work out, just make sure we have a backup plan in CF. Pie wouldn't be too horrible of a failsafe if we acquire a big bat in RF, which is certainly doable given the low cost of Bradley.

 

:roll: