Furcal or Pierre?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I don't think there should be any doubt that Furcal is prime target number one. I'd prefer that target be Giles, but I expect to see the full court press to sign Furcal begin the day FA can begin negotiating financial terms with other teams.

[NorthsideAvenger]

If Pierre is guaranteed to give you a .360+ OBP, I might agree with you. But, his .326 OBP last year along with his 17 caught stealings makes him quite a risk.

 

 

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Pierre has provided a .350 or better OBP in 4 of his 6 yrs in major league. So, yeah, I consider last yr an off-yr for Pierre. I think this could be a case of buying low, and getting a high reward. But, if we could get Pierre for Patterson and Mitre, then I do it, but anything more, I would look harder at Lofton.

 

People thought Kenny Williams was crazy for trading Carlos Lee for Podsenick, and that look to be a outstanding move. Now, I am not suggesting to copycat the White Sox, but I could see Pierre (or Furcal, for that matter) making the same impact as Podsednick. But it would depend on who the Cubs have to give up.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

If Pierre is guaranteed to give you a .360+ OBP, I might agree with you. But, his .326 OBP last year along with his 17 caught stealings makes him quite a risk.

 

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=4486

 

Pierre has provided a .350 or better OBP in 4 of his 6 yrs in major league. So, yeah, I consider last yr an off-yr for Pierre. I think this could be a case of buying low, and getting a high reward. But, if we could get Pierre for Patterson and Mitre, then I do it, but anything more, I would look harder at Lofton.

 

People thought Kenny Williams was crazy for trading Carlos Lee for Podsenick, and that look to be a outstanding move. Now, I am not suggesting to copycat the White Sox, but I could see Pierre (or Furcal, for that matter) making the same impact as Podsednick. But it would depend on who the Cubs have to give up.

 

This has been my mantra as well--buy low, let's bring in Pierre. For Patterson and Mitre, are you kidding? That's highway robbery.

 

Not only does Pierre have 3 seasons of 200+ hits, and 360+ OBP, but he's never stolen less than 45 bases in a full season, and never struck out more than 45 times. He puts the ball in play, and with his speed, that makes things happen.

 

Pierre is no all-star, but he'd be an improvement for this team. I want him if the price is right. And I want Patterson to be one of the guys swapped out in exchange to help equalize the salary differentials.

[USSoccer]

You know, I really don't think Pierre is very good, but if we got him for Patterson and Mitre, the OF would be improved.

 

Of course, the OF was so dang bad that it's hard to imagine it not improving. And even if Pierre puts up an OBP in the .330's, even though that wouldn't be great, it would be light years ahead of what we had leading off in front of Ramirez and Lee.

 

It's about cost, though. If Pierre costs more than Patterson and Mitre or another Rule 5 guy, I'd pass.

[Exile on Waveland]

You know, I really don't think Pierre is very good, but if we got him for Patterson and Mitre, the OF would be improved.

 

Of course, the OF was so dang bad that it's hard to imagine it not improving. And even if Pierre puts up an OBP in the .330's, even though that wouldn't be great, it would be light years ahead of what we had leading off in front of Ramirez and Lee.

 

It's about cost, though. If Pierre costs more than Patterson and Mitre or another Rule 5 guy, I'd pass.

 

My opinion of Pierre isn't that high, but I'd do that deal. Probably wouldn't hesitate. It would improve CF -- how much may be in question -- and does give Dusty a guy he'd always leadoff with (no more Perez or Macias or the like).

 

Now, that move coupled with Burnitz or Jacque Jones in RF won't cut it. But if the outfield is Murton/Pierre/(Giles/Abreu/Ramirez/etc), I'd be very happy.

[NorthsideAvenger]

Ultimately, I think the people who don't want Furcal will be disappointing, cause I believe Furcal will end up a Cubs, simply because Hendry has his eyes target on him, and unless the Mets GROSSLY overpay him to move to 2B (which they may be hesitant to do, considering neither Matsui, nor Reyes---both lifelong SS---could handle the job consistantly), I think the Cubs get him for what Cabrera/Renteria got.

 

This is opinion, not facts, of course.