Regular playing OFs who have higher OPS than Burnitz

[Jazz]

Murton would be perfect at 2B, since power is not much of a need there.

[goonys evil twin]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one haven't given up on the idea that Murton's power will continue to develop with time.

[UBlink]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one haven't given up on the idea that Murton's power will continue to develop with time.

 

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm on board with you. I don't have stats to support my theory (too darn lazy), but I think it is much more likely for a hitter with good plate discipline to develop better power than for a good power hitter to develop better plate discipline.

[frostwyrm]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one haven't given up on the idea that Murton's power will continue to develop with time.

 

I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm on board with you. I don't have stats to support my theory (too darn lazy), but I think it is much more likely for a hitter with good plate discipline to develop better power than for a good power hitter to develop better plate discipline.

 

Maybe he'll be one of those guys like Sosa, Bonds, et al. who gained 40-50 lbs. and turned into monster power hitters. :wink:

[rawaction]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one haven't given up on the idea that Murton's power will continue to develop with time.

 

Agreed. I don't see why people have a problem with his power as it is. 4 HRs in 77 ABs, equals out to 26 in a 500 AB season. Even if you figure in his entire season's stats, he's still a 15-18 HR type. I'll take that if he's OBP is gonna put up a .370 ish OBP....which is his career mark before this season.

[goonys evil twin]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one haven't given up on the idea that Murton's power will continue to develop with time.

 

Agreed. I don't see why people have a problem with his power as it is. 4 HRs in 77 ABs, equals out to 26 in a 500 AB season. Even if you figure in his entire season's stats, he's still a 15-18 HR type. I'll take that if he's OBP is gonna put up a .370 ish OBP....which is his career mark before this season.

 

If he averaged 15-25 HR per year with a .370+ OBP the next 3-5 years, I'd gladly take that production for what he's likely to be paid.

[UBlink]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one haven't given up on the idea that Murton's power will continue to develop with time.

 

Agreed. I don't see why people have a problem with his power as it is. 4 HRs in 77 ABs, equals out to 26 in a 500 AB season. Even if you figure in his entire season's stats, he's still a 15-18 HR type. I'll take that if he's OBP is gonna put up a .370 ish OBP....which is his career mark before this season.

 

If he averaged 15-25 HR per year with a .370+ OBP the next 3-5 years, I'd gladly take that production for what he's likely to be paid.

 

But would you take that for what he's likely to be played?

[goonys evil twin]

If he averaged 15-25 HR per year with a .370+ OBP the next 3-5 years, I'd gladly take that production for what he's likely to be paid.

 

But would you take that for what he's likely to be played?

 

Do you mean, is that enough from a LF?

 

 

I think so. There's no single way to fillout a lineup card. As long as guys are productive you can find space. There are 2 corner OF spots, perhaps you get more of a slugger in RF if need be. I don't believe in the idea that certain positions have to provide a certain level of performance. I do believe that you have to pay a guy relative to his performance at his position. In other words, a really great SS should get a lot while a good but not great 1B shouldn't get top dollar. If Murton plateaud in the .290/.360/.440 range, he's usable, but I wouldn't pay him $10m when he becomes a free agent.

[rawaction]

If he averaged 15-25 HR per year with a .370+ OBP the next 3-5 years, I'd gladly take that production for what he's likely to be paid.

 

But would you take that for what he's likely to be played?

 

Do you mean, is that enough from a LF?

 

 

I think so. There's no single way to fillout a lineup card. As long as guys are productive you can find space. There are 2 corner OF spots, perhaps you get more of a slugger in RF if need be. I don't believe in the idea that certain positions have to provide a certain level of performance. I do believe that you have to pay a guy relative to his performance at his position. In other words, a really great SS should get a lot while a good but not great 1B shouldn't get top dollar. If Murton plateaud in the .290/.360/.440 range, he's usable, but I wouldn't pay him $10m when he becomes a free agent.

 

I took it as him saying he won't be on the field enough due to a certain manager.

 

And you having a signature is monumental.

[goonys evil twin]

I took it as him saying he won't be on the field enough due to a certain manager.

 

And you having a signature is monumental.

 

 

Of course, that's always an issue.

 

 

 

It's starting to annoy me, I think I need to change/delete it.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Please don't, that sig cracks me up.

[Jehrico]

tony gwynn!!? why not just compare him to ty cobb....tony gwynn is arguably the best average hitter of our generation...i'll have to see more and puckett isn't he a 2 time mvp?

 

Note the word "TYPE" of hitter...i.e. high average, mediocre power, good contact hitting corner OFer. That pretty much describes Gwynn and Puckett, and from everything that Murton has shown us so far, he fits in the same category. I didn't say he's a lock to be as good, I just said he's the same TYPE of hitter, as I was trying to make a point that it's not necessarily a bad thing that he doesn't project to turn into a 40-50 HR type of guy at this point. I'd be happy with Jacque Jones type of power numbers if he maintains his OBP.