Rolen has shoulder reconstructed

[vaball]

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/3216C102A5DDC7338625706D00192263?OpenDocument

 

Supposedly succesful surgery, though more extensive than anticipated, and he should be able to resume baseball activities in January and be good to go for spring training.

 

Incidentally this is the same surgeon who will operate on Wood's shoulder later this week.

[Brian]

Hmmmm I wonder if he's a baseball fan, can you imagine if a surgeon "slips" while in the shoulder of a player from a team that his team is rivaled with. He'd be ruined professionally and legally but it might be worth it. :)

[AC036198]

THANK YOU HEE SOP CHOI! Edited September 4, 2005 by AC036198

[PujolsPower]

THANK YOU HEE SOP CHOI!

 

That is a pretty classless comment.

[AC036198]

THANK YOU HEE SOP CHOI!

 

That is a pretty classless comment.

Pfffft. Matt Morris has much less class than anyone.

2002: Sosa hits a 500-ft HR off him: "Sammy Sosa stole signs from our dugout"

2003: He complians that the Cards have to play Houston in Sept., while the Cubs didn't: "MLB is being unfair to us. They want the Cubs to win"

[Transmogrified Tiger]

THANK YOU HEE SOP CHOI!

 

That is a pretty classless comment.

Pfffft. Matt Morris has much less class than anyone.

2002: Sosa hits a 500-ft HR off him: "Sammy Sosa stole signs from our dugout"

2003: He complians that the Cards have to play Houston in Sept., while the Cubs didn't: "MLB is being unfair to us. They want the Cubs to win"

 

What does that have to do with Rolen? Rolen is my favorite Cards player, he's classy, plays all aspects of the game well, and by all accounts is a good guy.

[reggiemiller rules]

Also i dont think that cubs fans really want to bring up complaints about the schedule. The first half of this year all cards fans heard how how unfair the schedule was to the cubs. So complaining about schedules is something that is done by both sides.

[PujolsPower]

THANK YOU HEE SOP CHOI!

 

That is a pretty classless comment.

Pfffft. Matt Morris has much less class than anyone.

2002: Sosa hits a 500-ft HR off him: "Sammy Sosa stole signs from our dugout"

2003: He complians that the Cards have to play Houston in Sept., while the Cubs didn't: "MLB is being unfair to us. They want the Cubs to win"

 

You cheered because a Cardinal player was injured. That is pretty classless in my opinion. How Morris was brought into this is beyond me. I don't think highly of any person that cheers an injury of any player.

[reggiemiller rules]

THANK YOU HEE SOP CHOI!

 

That is a pretty classless comment.

Pfffft. Matt Morris has much less class than anyone.

2002: Sosa hits a 500-ft HR off him: "Sammy Sosa stole signs from our dugout"

2003: He complians that the Cards have to play Houston in Sept., while the Cubs didn't: "MLB is being unfair to us. They want the Cubs to win"

 

You cheered because a Cardinal player was injured. That is pretty classless in my opinion. How Morris was brought into this is beyond me. I don't think highly of any person that cheers an injury of any player.

 

Yeah i agree, I dislike Zambrano for when he threw at Edmonds. But that dosent mean I was happy when Prior ran into Giles or when he took the liner off of his arm.

[ltb]

Also i dont think that cubs fans really want to bring up complaints about the schedule. The first half of this year all cards fans heard how how unfair the schedule was to the cubs. So complaining about schedules is something that is done by both sides.

 

uh, the complaining earlier this year was based on the fact that you have a cakewalk in interleague while we play the white sox.

 

morris' complaint was pointless, considering all the teams in the central play houston. all that was different was the timing.

[reggiemiller rules]

Also i dont think that cubs fans really want to bring up complaints about the schedule. The first half of this year all cards fans heard how how unfair the schedule was to the cubs. So complaining about schedules is something that is done by both sides.

 

uh, the complaining earlier this year was based on the fact that you have a cakewalk in interleague while we play the white sox.

 

morris' complaint was pointless, considering all the teams in the central play houston. all that was different was the timing.

 

We had an easier schedule this year its not gonna be that way every year there was a year a few years ago where the Royals were much better then the white sox at the all-star break thats just the way it works out. The cubs werent the only teams that had to play tougher rivals. The marlins got to play the devil rays while the braves has to play Boston. Its part of the game some years the cubs will have an easier schedule, some years the cardinals will.

[ltb]

Also i dont think that cubs fans really want to bring up complaints about the schedule. The first half of this year all cards fans heard how how unfair the schedule was to the cubs. So complaining about schedules is something that is done by both sides.

 

uh, the complaining earlier this year was based on the fact that you have a cakewalk in interleague while we play the white sox.

 

morris' complaint was pointless, considering all the teams in the central play houston. all that was different was the timing.

 

We had an easier schedule this year its not gonna be that way every year there was a year a few years ago where the Royals were much better then the white sox at the all-star break thats just the way it works out. The cubs werent the only teams that had to play tougher rivals. The marlins got to play the devil rays while the braves has to play Boston. Its part of the game some years the cubs will have an easier schedule, some years the cardinals will.

 

um, i'm not restarting this argument. it's been beaten into the ground. it's dead. let it go.

[reggiemiller rules]

Also i dont think that cubs fans really want to bring up complaints about the schedule. The first half of this year all cards fans heard how how unfair the schedule was to the cubs. So complaining about schedules is something that is done by both sides.

 

uh, the complaining earlier this year was based on the fact that you have a cakewalk in interleague while we play the white sox.

 

morris' complaint was pointless, considering all the teams in the central play houston. all that was different was the timing.

 

We had an easier schedule this year its not gonna be that way every year there was a year a few years ago where the Royals were much better then the white sox at the all-star break thats just the way it works out. The cubs werent the only teams that had to play tougher rivals. The marlins got to play the devil rays while the braves has to play Boston. Its part of the game some years the cubs will have an easier schedule, some years the cardinals will.

 

um, i'm not restarting this argument. it's been beaten into the ground. it's dead. let it go.

 

I am fine with letting it go the guy up there is the one who brought up people complaining about schedules. I was just pointing out that both sides did it.

[1wizard]

Itb wrote:

uh, the complaining earlier this year was based on the fact that you have a cakewalk in interleague while we play the white sox.

 

morris' complaint was pointless, considering all the teams in the central play houston. all that was different was the timing.

 

Isn't your complaint of interleague play pointless too considering the interleague games are not the difference between the two teams records.

 

As for Rolen and Wood, I hope they both are 100% healthy for next year. As a fan, I want to see them both at their best.

[AC036198]

Wood has had a history of arm/shoulder problems. Rolen was the victim of a collision. Completly different stories here.

[1wizard]

Wood has had a history of arm/shoulder problems. Rolen was the victim of a collision. Completly different stories here.

 

Sure are different stories, and I don't think anyone would argue that. One is a pitcher who continues to have injuries related to mechanics; the other is a position player who continues to have collisions on the base paths (Choi and Cintron). Yet, they both are having similiar surgeries by the same physician. And I hope they both have speedy recovers.

[AC036198]

Please. Collisions on the bases can happen to anyone. It's a wonder it hasn't happened to Lee or Ramirez based on Cubs luck.