Jeff Kent

[JC]

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I'm sure everyone has heard of his problems with Milton Bradley by now. Thus, I think its fair to assume that one of them will be gone come 2006.

 

I would bet anything that Dusty has taken Kent's recent words to heart about players who need to police other players. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if a move was made to bring Kent in to play 2B next year. In fact, I could see DePodesta having interest in Walker, particularly if the Cubs pick up his rather cheap option.

 

So, if Hendry makes a move for Kent, how do we get the Dodgers to throw in JD Drew?

[RynoRules]

That's a well-reasoned and realistic prediction, JC. But we already have one exteremly injury prone high-priced position player (Nomar), so I don't think I want another (Drew).

[UK1679666180]

Hypothetically, I'd rather have Bradley at this point than Kent, despite his baggage.

 

Someone did a poor job of keeping that in-house.

 

I don't see getting either one, but they'd both improve the team.

[USSoccer]

JC,

 

The very mention of Jeff Kent as a Cub would be enough to send Hoops into fits of joy and bliss.

 

And for the record, i'd trade for Kent in a second. He's a much, much better player than Walker.

[JC]

Hypothetically, I'd rather have Bradley at this point than Kent, despite his baggage.

 

His baggage frightens me to death. It would be difficult to root for the guy.

[RynoRules]

Hypothetically, I'd rather have Bradley at this point than Kent, despite his baggage.

 

His baggage frightens me to death. It would be difficult to root for the guy.

 

And Kent is flat out more productive than Bradley is, has less of a history of injury (if you do not count that incident where Mr. Pornstache was "washing his car" :roll: ), and to the best of my knowledge has never thrown anything at a fan.

[UK1679666180]

The only problem I have with Bradley was the way he treated Wedge in Clev.

 

I have no problem with him bringing up racial issues, why you might ask? B/c, they exist. The only things that concerns are those nitwits who decided to include race into their hate mail at Hawkins while he struggled.

 

But, he lost his cool at a fan who threw a water bottle at him, walked over to the stands and slammed/threw the water bottle down on the ground, not at a fan.

 

I'd have no problem rooting for him, just hope the Cubs have someone either on the roster or in the clubhouse that can help control his anger.

[USSoccer]

The only problem I have with Bradley was the way he treated Wedge in Clev.

 

I have no problem with him bringing up racial issues, why you might ask? B/c, they exist. The only things that concerns are those nitwits who decided to include race into their hate mail at Hawkins while he struggled.

 

But, he lost his cool at a fan who threw a water bottle at him, walked over to the stands and slammed/threw the water bottle down on the ground, not at a fan.

 

I'd have no problem rooting for him, just hope the Cubs have someone either on the roster or in the clubhouse that can help control his anger.

 

But, Dusty's biggest strength is managing a clubhouse. *ducks*

[JC]

The only problem I have with Bradley was the way he treated Wedge in Clev.

 

Wedge is a proud product of Fort Wayne, Indiana. He's representin'.[/failed hippness]

 

I have no problem with him bringing up racial issues, why you might ask? B/c, they exist. The only things that concerns are those nitwits who decided to include race into their hate mail at Hawkins while he struggled.

 

I have a problem with it because it comes from him. Bradley has no credibility in my opinion. He denied ever having anger problems when he is an obvious powder keg. His anger makes him appear unintelligent, unreasonable and irrational. He has crossed lines previously with fans, umpires, managers and teammates.

 

In addition, I don't want to hear people talk about how they should be respected. Too many people have too grand an idea of the respect they deserve. Respect is something that is given when its due, its that simple. Self promoting respect, or rather, pleading one's own case for respect never seems to be a persuasive argument. Perhaps it because of the people who make such arguments.

 

In truth, Jeff Kent seems like a bit of a red neck to me. Take that for what its worth. At the same time, I've never seen Kent dog it, or play the game with any disrespect. Thus, perhaps Bradley's critic was off the mark here. At the same time, Kent may have mistakenly thought Bradley was dogging it when, in fact, he was injured. Regardless, mistakes don't need to be made into wars.

 

I'd have no problem rooting for him, just hope the Cubs have someone either on the roster or in the clubhouse that can help control his anger.

 

Like Jeff Kent? :wink:

 

Seriously, I don't think the Cubs have anyone on the team that could provide Bradley with the direction he needs.

[dalgreen]

Bradley does have talent. I just would rather start getting guys without question marks. As for Kent, I'll pass on the 38 year-old. I can't stomach the number of slow grounders getting through the right side because Kent couldn't get to the ball while Lee is holding someone on. And I would hate to see the number of balls hit up the middle because Kent is compensating by playing closer to the first base side. We must improve our infield defense next year. Cedeno (if he's the choice) might have to cover thirty yards between the ARam and Kent.

[UK1679666180]

Bradley has that right to interpret racial issues as he may. There are enough underdeveloped people in our society to merit that standpoint of focusing on race. Especially, given the history of race in America that is still on-going today.

 

I can't criticize him w/out walking a step in his shoes concerning matters of race.

[USSoccer]

Given how hard Hendry tried to remove the "cancerous" elements of the 2004 team, I doubt he'd bring in a player notorious for erratic behavior into a clubhouse this loosely run. I just cannot see it happening. The media here in Chicago would have Bradley whipping chairs into the bleachers by May.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

I think Kent is only on contract through 2006 (owed 9.5M next year).

 

We'd better not have to give up a lot in trade if we're going to eat that contract (in the event he is moved to the Cubs).

[JC]

Bradley has that right to interpret racial issues as he may. There are enough underdeveloped people in our society to merit that standpoint of focusing on race. Especially, given the history of race in America that is still on-going today.

 

I can't criticize him w/out walking a step in his shoes concerning matters of race.

 

While that is a noble view, I don't agree in this instance. I think based on what we know of Bradley's personality, fair conclusions can be drawn. He is volatile, controversial, impulsive and loathe to accept responsibility. I would accept allegations of racially motivated behavior much more readily from someone with a better track record than I will from Bradley.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

Bradley has that right to interpret racial issues as he may. There are enough underdeveloped people in our society to merit that standpoint of focusing on race. Especially, given the history of race in America that is still on-going today.

 

I can't criticize him w/out walking a step in his shoes concerning matters of race.

 

A black man making millions of dollars in the bigs doesn't have much credibility when whining about race issues. A poor black male living on welfare does have credibility. What a whiner (Bradley).

 

If Bradley isn't a big enough man to put aside a few incendiary comments for the sake of the team, then he doesn't deserve to play baseball. If Kent can't keep his comments clean, then he shouldn't open his mouth other than to talk about baseball.

[dalgreen]

A black man making millions of dollars in the bigs doesn't have much credibility when whining about race issues. A poor black male living on welfare does have credibility. What a whiner (Bradley).

 

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I think guys like Hank Aaron, LaTroy Hawkins and Willie Randolph would disagree with your statement.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

A black man making millions of dollars in the bigs doesn't have much credibility when whining about race issues. A poor black male living on welfare does have credibility. What a whiner (Bradley).

 

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I think guys like Hank Aaron, LaTroy Hawkins and Willie Randolph would disagree with your statement.

 

OK. Let them disagree.

[USSoccer]

A black man making millions of dollars in the bigs doesn't have much credibility when whining about race issues. A poor black male living on welfare does have credibility. What a whiner (Bradley).

 

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I think guys like Hank Aaron, LaTroy Hawkins and Willie Randolph would disagree with your statement.

 

OK. Let them disagree.

 

The issue isn't about how much he makes. I think JC's point is that the arguments would have a lot more merit and be taken much, much more seriously if Bradley wasn't a loon in the first place. The argument and topic have merit, the messenger doesn't.

[cubbyvirus00]

Milton Bradly is a baby. He throws tantrums, and always seems to feel "cheated." Playing the race card, only lowered the little credibility he has. Kent would be good for the Cubs, if this was 1998, but he is a tad old.

[KatJ]

It's bad enough having Joe Morgan dissing Ryno every opportunity he gets. I'd rather not have the guy who is 1) a jerk, and 2) who broke Ryno's HR record on this team as well.

[UK1679666180]

Bradley has that right to interpret racial issues as he may. There are enough underdeveloped people in our society to merit that standpoint of focusing on race. Especially, given the history of race in America that is still on-going today.

 

I can't criticize him w/out walking a step in his shoes concerning matters of race.

 

While that is a noble view, I don't agree in this instance. I think based on what we know of Bradley's personality, fair conclusions can be drawn. He is volatile, controversial, impulsive and loathe to accept responsibility. I would accept allegations of racially motivated behavior much more readily from someone with a better track record than I will from Bradley.

 

That to me says you're discarding anything that has negatively happened to him in a racially motivated manner b/c of his several incidents where he lost control. His personality can't sway me from thinking he has been a victim of racism during his life, I don't think you can find an African-American who hasn't.

 

He has a right to be on edge about racial issues, if I was a victim of racism, I'd be too.

[JC]

Bradley has that right to interpret racial issues as he may. There are enough underdeveloped people in our society to merit that standpoint of focusing on race. Especially, given the history of race in America that is still on-going today.

 

I can't criticize him w/out walking a step in his shoes concerning matters of race.

 

While that is a noble view, I don't agree in this instance. I think based on what we know of Bradley's personality, fair conclusions can be drawn. He is volatile, controversial, impulsive and loathe to accept responsibility. I would accept allegations of racially motivated behavior much more readily from someone with a better track record than I will from Bradley.

 

That to me says you're discarding anything that has negatively happened to him in a racially motivated manner b/c of his several incidents where he lost control. His personality can't sway me from thinking he has been a victim of racism during his life, I don't think you can find an African-American who hasn't.

 

He has a right to be on edge about racial issues, if I was a victim of racism, I'd be too.

 

I have no delusions that Bradley has never been subjected to racially motivated behavior. However, his personality promotes a loss in credibility on proclaiming himself a victim in such circumstances, IMO.

[andrew9991]

Has anyone seen this quote from Lance Berkman, pretty funny:

 

''I think (for Bradley) to make it a race issue is ridiculous,'' Berkman said. ''J.K. doesn't discriminate against anybody. He ignores Latinos, blacks and whites equally.''

[JC]

Has anyone seen this quote from Lance Berkman, pretty funny:

 

''I think (for Bradley) to make it a race issue is ridiculous,'' Berkman said. ''J.K. doesn't discriminate against anybody. He ignores Latinos, blacks and whites equally.''

 

:lol:

 

Now THAT I believe.

[CubfaninCA]

Hypothetically, I'd rather have Bradley at this point than Kent, despite his baggage.

 

Someone did a poor job of keeping that in-house.

 

I don't see getting either one, but they'd both improve the team.

 

Bradley didn't keep it in house. He was ordered too, but took things into his own hands. Apparently, the Dodgers are really ticked @ him.