I have faith in Hendry. Do you?

[JC]

Between 1997 and 2004 (his full MLB seasons), Nomar has averaged about 123 games a year. Of course, those totals are due primarily to two injury plagued seasons of 2001 and 2004. While he played about 156 games in both 2002 and 2003, he missed 18-27 games in the years 1998, 1999, and 2000. (Please excuse me if some of the years are wrong, I'm going on memory here.)

 

He hasn't been the most durable guy for his career, but was pretty healthy prior to the 2004 season. I really thought he would have a great year, but it was cautious optimism in light of his injuries, mostly because they seem like the type that can linger.

 

EDIT: Crap. Had I waited a minute or so longer, I could have just read these stats from the posts above.

Edited July 19, 2005 by JC

[Cubzfan64]

back to the topic of the thread however....

 

I have more faith in Hendry than I have in any previous GM that I can think of (except perhaps Dallas Green).

 

He landed Lee and Ramirez without giving up great talent. He got rid of Hundley and his contract somehow and I'm sure he's had a generous hand in the drafts since he's been around.

 

He's made mistakes as well and I have a huge issue with his lack of addressing the OBP problem this team has had for over 2 years now, but I feel reasonably comfortable that he's working hard to fix some problems with this team.

[ltb]

I often don't know where some players "injury proness" comes from. Prior is another one of those.

 

very few things annoy me more than people who call prior injury prone. ugh.

[badger1679666666]

I often don't know where some players "injury proness" comes from. Prior is another one of those.

 

very few things annoy me more than people who call prior injury prone. ugh.

 

My response to that usually is:

 

"If I take a bat to your elbow or run you ever with a golf cart, and you get hurt, are you injury prone?"

 

that usually shuts em up real quick.

[wade]

For what it's worth, PECOTA projected before the season started that Nomar would miss significant time. Not that it's an infallible method of predicting performance, but it shows that there were indications somewhere that he may be hurt again. As I understand the system, 30 year-old plus players that have had serious injuries are more likely to have more injuries down the road. Even if they are not injuries that are related to one another.

 

Nomar didn't get a long term deal going into the year because of concerns by other teams about his ability to stay healthy.

 

That said, I hope he's back soon.

[SouthSideRyan]

Saying the reason Nomar wasn't offered a nice long term deal because of injury concerns isn't completely accurate.

 

1. It's reasonable to assume that Nomar wasn't happy with the 4/32 offers, and wanted the 1 year deal to make good and get the long term deal for more dollars the next year. He had reportedly turned down 4/60 from the Red Sox, so that's a big ego strike to lose half the money on your long term deal.

 

2. Some idiot GMs thought he was a clubhouse cancer as they saw Nomar traded = Boston wins World Series.

 

Oh and how does PECOTA project injuries? Just curious.

Edited July 19, 2005 by SouthSideRyan

[ltb]

For what it's worth, PECOTA projected before the season started that Nomar would miss significant time. Not that it's an infallible method of predicting performance, but it shows that there were indications somewhere that he may be hurt again. As I understand the system, 30 year-old plus players that have had serious injuries are more likely to have more injuries down the road. Even if they are not injuries that are related to one another.

 

Nomar didn't get a long term deal going into the year because of concerns by other teams about his ability to stay healthy.

 

That said, I hope he's back soon.

 

PECOTA almost always projects low AB totals, though. nomar was projected for 468 ABs. quite a bit of time missed, but not exactly a huge amount, either.

[wade]

Well, I'll have to beg for help on the PECOTA thing. I know what it is and what it's supposed to do, but I don't know the details, nor subscribe to the service that provides it.

 

But like I said, apparently players over 30 who've been injured before and missed quite a bit of time are statistically more likely to be hurt again. At least that's the way I take it.

 

I forgot that they had Nomar getting that many AB's. I remember they had Ronny Cedeno playing something like 60 games, and during Neifi's slumps I've pined for that to have come true.

[BadKermit]

Gooney is the only person I know who can so clearly be proven wrong and still go on fighting. Call it what you will, but it's always fun to watch. Keep fighting Goon, don't let the facts get in your way.

 

Okay tough guy.

 

Like I said, I must have been the only person who thought Nomar was an injury risk.

 

Crazy gut instincts.

I always assumed Wendy City was a girl. A girl named Wendy.

[JC]

Gooney is the only person I know who can so clearly be proven wrong and still go on fighting. Call it what you will, but it's always fun to watch. Keep fighting Goon, don't let the facts get in your way.

 

Okay tough guy.

 

Like I said, I must have been the only person who thought Nomar was an injury risk.

 

Crazy gut instincts.

I always assumed Wendy City was a girl. A girl named Wendy.

 

That is a reasonable assumption. Alas, my understanding is that it is not a girl. It is not a girl named Wendy.

 

Only a mischievious frog would make such a mistake...

[Knightlife_in_Lubbock]

Gooney is the only person I know who can so clearly be proven wrong and still go on fighting. Call it what you will, but it's always fun to watch. Keep fighting Goon, don't let the facts get in your way.

 

Okay tough guy.

 

Like I said, I must have been the only person who thought Nomar was an injury risk.

 

Crazy gut instincts.

 

Quit it Dusty! :lol:

[badger1679666666]

Another fantastic trade by Hendry. Giving up only Gerut and getting an everyday high OBP player AND getting cash too ($1mil).

 

For a trade season where just about nothing happened, and really, nothing big at all, this was a fantastic job by Hendry. Will it be enough to get them over the hump? Maybe, maybe not, but the fact is the impact players weren't available without mortagaing the farm (Huff, Dunn, Ramirez).

 

He once again did what he could to help the Cubs where they needed it.

 

For that, I'm bumping this.

 

(I do wish he got some relief help, but maybe he knows something about Williamson and Wood that we don't).

[twothousandfive]

And, if I've got it right, this has no impact on next season. In fact, if Patterson has one option left, the Cubs have no outfield commitments for next year -- Murton, Patterson (and Pie) can all play in the minors, and Hairston, Lawton, Burnitz, and Hollandsworth are free agents. The Cubs can after anyone they want back (Burnitz and maybe Lawton) and if they get turned down, they've got options.

 

it can burn them, and it'd be great of they gotten Burnitz for two years (hindsight is great) but they've got first crack at any of those seven, and fewer commitments means more opportunity to go after free agents.

 

Helps the Cubs stay competitive this year, zero impact (well, first dibs on Lawton but he hasto take more than a 20% pay cut, right?) on next year.

[katway]

...and it'd be great of they gotten Burnitz for two years (hindsight is great).

 

They do have Burny for next year if they want to pick up the $7 million option. Otherwise, they can negotiate for a smaller number before he becomes a free agent open to the league.