Mark Cuban, Cubs Owner?!?

[brinoch]

I merged this thread with another one discussing the same thing in the transactions forum. While Cuban purchasing the Cubs is a theoretical transaction of a sort, it's not exactly topical for the transactions forum. It belongs more in the baseball discussions forum.

 

Or perhaps in the wild fantasy forum -- alongside the Dunn trade discussions. ;)

[Knightlife_in_Lubbock]

He does realize that a baseball owner can't run onto the field during the game, right?

Seriously though, I kinda like Mark Cuban. He's a showboating, semi-arrogant bottle of insane energy. As negative as all of that can be, it's nice to see every once in awhile, compared to most sports team owners.

 

What could he do for the Cubs? Hard to say. He definitly loves to win, and will do quite a bit to get the job done, unlike the Tribune (some have said, at times).

 

But can he where a uniform and sit on the bench? Maybe he can take out the line-up card?

 

Would there be a new reality show? You know something like "The Bat Boy" or "Player Personnel"

[DivineBovine]

Cuban would be a dream come true. Forget the micromanagement stuff, he wants to win.

 

Reasons Cuban would be a dream owner for the Cubs:

1) Wants to win, and will spend money

2) Wants to win, and will spend money

3) Wants to win, and will spend money

4) Smart businessman, who I'm sure would increase revenue. No more incestuous media deals.

 

Basketball is way different than baseball. It's really difficult to throw your money around in hoops, but not in baseball with a large market team with a huge fanbase and no salary cap. It's not rocket science. And he's isn't an idiot who's going to throw way too much money at overrated veterans.

 

Seriously, do people really think Cuban would sit in the dugout and taunt the umpires and opponents? And even if he did, why should we care? I wouldn't.

 

Too bad this is all a fantasy. The tribune has no intention of selling, and the reason probably is that they are making serious money out of this team.

[goonys evil twin]

Cuban would be a dream come true. Forget the micromanagement stuff, he wants to win.

 

Reasons Cuban would be a dream owner for the Cubs:

1) Wants to win, and will spend money

2) Wants to win, and will spend money

3) Wants to win, and will spend money

4) Smart businessman, who I'm sure would increase revenue. No more incestuous media deals.

 

1) So does the Tribune

2) So does the Tribune

3) So does the Tribune

4) So does the Tribune

 

 

Cuban is a joke. He throws his money at all his problems. And he would definitely throw his money at has been veterans, playing the role of George II. Cuban would get involved in the day to day operations of the team and treat the non revenue producing and non headline grabbing minor league system like an underperforming asset.

[Knightlife_in_Lubbock]

Cuban would be a dream come true. Forget the micromanagement stuff, he wants to win.

 

Reasons Cuban would be a dream owner for the Cubs:

1) Wants to win, and will spend money

2) Wants to win, and will spend money

3) Wants to win, and will spend money

4) Smart businessman, who I'm sure would increase revenue. No more incestuous media deals.

 

1) So does the Tribune

2) So does the Tribune

3) So does the Tribune

4) So does the Tribune

 

 

Cuban is a joke. He throws his money at all his problems. And he would definitely throw his money at has been veterans, playing the role of George II. Cuban would get involved in the day to day operations of the team and treat the non revenue producing and non headline grabbing minor league system like an underperforming asset.

 

So does the Tribune.

[goonys evil twin]

Cuban would be a dream come true. Forget the micromanagement stuff, he wants to win.

 

Reasons Cuban would be a dream owner for the Cubs:

1) Wants to win, and will spend money

2) Wants to win, and will spend money

3) Wants to win, and will spend money

4) Smart businessman, who I'm sure would increase revenue. No more incestuous media deals.

 

1) So does the Tribune

2) So does the Tribune

3) So does the Tribune

4) So does the Tribune

 

 

Cuban is a joke. He throws his money at all his problems. And he would definitely throw his money at has been veterans, playing the role of George II. Cuban would get involved in the day to day operations of the team and treat the non revenue producing and non headline grabbing minor league system like an underperforming asset.

 

So does the Tribune.

 

That's Hendry. The Trib isn't an activist owner like Cuban would be.

[Chocolate Milk]

Cuban is a joke.

 

Mavricks:

1995-96: 26-56

1996-97: 24-58

1997-98: 20-62

1998-99: 14-36

1999-00: 40-42 Cuban Purchases Team in Jan

2000-01: 53-29

2001-02: 57-25

2002-03: 60-22

2003-04: 52-30

 

 

Yeah, what a joke he is as an owner.

[dalgreen]

They were worse than the clippers when he bought them. He has really turned them around since he bought them. They were one sorry franchise with terrible attendance. Cuban loves the lime light and being the owner of the dallas mavs isnt anything close to the Cubs.

 

Sounds like the Cubs to me. And I don't know your age, but the Mavericks made the playoffs several times back in the '80's with Derek Harper and Rolando Blackman. Yes, they had a period when they stunk, but it's not like that franchise has always been horrible.

 

Again, how close have his teams been to winning the NBA title? I'm more interested in a NL pennant and World Series title. But maybe some are more interested in seeing the owner's face than the end results.

[goonys evil twin]

Cuban is a joke.

 

Mavricks:

1995-96: 26-56

1996-97: 24-58

1997-98: 20-62

1998-99: 14-36

1999-00: 40-42 Cuban Purchases Team in Jan

2000-01: 53-29

2001-02: 57-25

2002-03: 60-22

2003-04: 52-30

 

 

Yeah, what a joke he is as an owner.

 

His initial spending spree made the team better, but they have since stalled, and his continued meddling will not help. The Cubs already are an equivalent of the Mavs, good, but nothing special. They don't need a big personality owner to make the next step, they need smart personel decisions. Simply throwing money around and being vocal (Cuban's only apparant skills as an owner) won't help a thing.

 

Cubs fans who get caught up in the misguided dream of replacing ownership are wasting their time and unfairly giving a free pass to continued mistakes by management.

[Knightlife_in_Lubbock]

They were worse than the clippers when he bought them. He has really turned them around since he bought them. They were one sorry franchise with terrible attendance. Cuban loves the lime light and being the owner of the dallas mavs isnt anything close to the Cubs.

 

Sounds like the Cubs to me. And I don't know your age, but the Mavericks made the playoffs several times back in the '80's with Derek Harper and Rolando Blackman. Yes, they had a period when they stunk, but it's not like that franchise has always been horrible.

 

Again, how close have his teams been to winning the NBA title? I'm more interested in a NL pennant and World Series title. But maybe some are more interested in seeing the owner's face than the end results.

 

You forgot Roy "snort, snort" Tarpley.

[Chocolate Milk]

Again, how close have his teams been to winning the NBA title? I'm more interested in a NL pennant and World Series title. But maybe some are more interested in seeing the owner's face than the end results.

 

This is unwarrented critisicm. He has owned the team for 5 years and you are saying that in order for him to be considered a good owner he must have won a championship in that time? That's absurd.

[Knightlife_in_Lubbock]

Cuban is a joke.

 

Mavricks:

1995-96: 26-56

1996-97: 24-58

1997-98: 20-62

1998-99: 14-36

1999-00: 40-42 Cuban Purchases Team in Jan

2000-01: 53-29

2001-02: 57-25

2002-03: 60-22

2003-04: 52-30

 

 

Yeah, what a joke he is as an owner.

 

His initial spending spree made the team better, but they have since stalled, and his continued meddling will not help. The Cubs already are an equivalent of the Mavs, good, but nothing special. They don't need a big personality owner to make the next step, they need smart personel decisions. Simply throwing money around and being vocal (Cuban's only apparant skills as an owner) won't help a thing.

 

Cubs fans who get caught up in the misguided dream of replacing ownership are wasting their time and unfairly giving a free pass to continued mistakes by management.

 

The management that the ownership has put in place.

[Knightlife_in_Lubbock]

Again, how close have his teams been to winning the NBA title? I'm more interested in a NL pennant and World Series title. But maybe some are more interested in seeing the owner's face than the end results.

 

This is unwarrented critisicm. He has owned the team for 5 years and you are saying that in order for him to be considered a good owner he must have won a championship in that time? That's absurd.

 

Not true because it does happen. See Wayne Huizenga.

[dalgreen]

I apologize for sounding "snippy", but I'm getting the impression that some couldn't name five owners of NBA teams without research, but only know Cuban's name. What would he do to bring the Cubs a World Series title that the Tribuene hasn't done recently?

[goonys evil twin]

The management that the ownership has put in place.

 

You just want to keep going around in circles? You really think Cuban is the answer to Cubs fans prayers? This fascination with activist ownership is a complete joke. The Yankees of the 90's are the exception to the rule. George ran that team into the ground for 2 decades before his never ending spending finally started to pay off. Activist owners ruin franchises.

[Chocolate Milk]

The management that the ownership has put in place.

 

You just want to keep going around in circles? You really think Cuban is the answer to Cubs fans prayers? This fascination with activist ownership is a complete joke. The Yankees of the 90's are the exception to the rule. George ran that team into the ground for 2 decades before his never ending spending finally started to pay off. Activist owners ruin franchises.

 

Feel free to back that up (at least in terms of Cuban).

Edited July 15, 2005 by Chocolate Milk

[dalgreen]

Again, how close have his teams been to winning the NBA title? I'm more interested in a NL pennant and World Series title. But maybe some are more interested in seeing the owner's face than the end results.

 

This is unwarrented critisicm. He has owned the team for 5 years and you are saying that in order for him to be considered a good owner he must have won a championship in that time? That's absurd.

 

If you read my previous post, it's not a World Championship, but at least make it to the Western Conference Finals - they may have done that once. But my point is what could he do that the Trib hasn't done in the past five years? And I'm an NBA fan, and it's my opinion that the Cubs are closer to a World Championship right now than the Mavericks.

[goonys evil twin]

The management that the ownership has put in place.

 

You just want to keep going around in circles? You really think Cuban is the answer to Cubs fans prayers? This fascination with activist ownership is a complete joke. The Yankees of the 90's are the exception to the rule. George ran that team into the ground for 2 decades before his never ending spending finally started to pay off. Activist owners ruin franchises.

 

Feel free to back that up (at least in terms of Cuban).

 

Back it up? If you know anything about sports you don't need me to back up that statement. The list is endless.

[ZiggyTaxi]

In today's Sun Times, Carol Slezak speculates [urlhttp://www.suntimes.com/output/slezak/cst-spt-carol15.html]that Mark Cuban could one day own the Cubs.[/url]

 

Cuban, the Dallas Mavericks owner, will play the role of guest conductor during the seventh-inning stretch today at Wrigley Field. But in the future, he conceivably could play a much larger role in the Cubs organization. Or so Cubs fans can hope.

 

Cuban is a born-and-bred Pittsburgh Pirates fan, but he knows a good investment when he sees one. If the folks in Tribune Tower ever find themselves in the mood to talk sale, Cuban would listen.

 

"The Cubbies are such an institution, if they became available, it would certainly be exciting to consider,'' he said via e-mail.

 

Of course, I'll be the first to say this will never happen, but it is an intriguing idea.

 

Cuban wants his teams to win and he isn't afraid to spend money or shake things up. On the other hand, for those that value tradition, Cuban may not be your guy. He's innovative and is willing to try about anything.

 

Carol Sleeeezak is one of the reporters that named Bartman. I don't trust one single work from her. I have no respeck at all for her or what she does.

 

Do you have a link to where Carol Slezak says this? In an E-Mail, she denied it.

[Chocolate Milk]

Again, how close have his teams been to winning the NBA title? I'm more interested in a NL pennant and World Series title. But maybe some are more interested in seeing the owner's face than the end results.

 

This is unwarrented critisicm. He has owned the team for 5 years and you are saying that in order for him to be considered a good owner he must have won a championship in that time? That's absurd.

 

If you read my previous post, it's not a World Championship, but at least make it to the Western Conference Finals - they may have done that once. But my point is what could he do that the Trib hasn't done in the past five years? And I'm an NBA fan, and it's my opinion that the Cubs are closer to a World Championship right now than the Mavericks.

 

I would disagree. The Cubs are going to have to get extremely lucky to even make the playoffs while the Mavericks consistantly get to the second round or further. I'm a basketball fan as well, and I think that a lot of this criticism of Cuban is based on his Reality show, his jumping on the floor, etc. You really can''t dispute his success as an owner.

 

That being said, I really don't think he would be the missing link, I just think that he doesn't diserve to be trashed like he is being here.

[Chocolate Milk]

The management that the ownership has put in place.

 

You just want to keep going around in circles? You really think Cuban is the answer to Cubs fans prayers? This fascination with activist ownership is a complete joke. The Yankees of the 90's are the exception to the rule. George ran that team into the ground for 2 decades before his never ending spending finally started to pay off. Activist owners ruin franchises.

 

Feel free to back that up (at least in terms of Cuban).

 

Back it up? If you know anything about sports you don't need me to back up that statement. The list is endless.

 

Ok, then don't. That statement doesn't apply to Cuban anyway.

[CubinNY]

The management that the ownership has put in place.

 

You just want to keep going around in circles? You really think Cuban is the answer to Cubs fans prayers? This fascination with activist ownership is a complete joke. The Yankees of the 90's are the exception to the rule. George ran that team into the ground for 2 decades before his never ending spending finally started to pay off. Activist owners ruin franchises.

 

Dan Snyder comes to mind here. Jerry Jones too. Although Jones did get lucky with Jimmy Johnson and the stupid Vikings (Walker trade).

[DivineBovine]

Cuban would be a dream come true. Forget the micromanagement stuff, he wants to win.

 

Reasons Cuban would be a dream owner for the Cubs:

1) Wants to win, and will spend money

2) Wants to win, and will spend money

3) Wants to win, and will spend money

4) Smart businessman, who I'm sure would increase revenue. No more incestuous media deals.

 

1) So does the Tribune

2) So does the Tribune

3) So does the Tribune

4) So does the Tribune

 

 

Cuban is a joke. He throws his money at all his problems. And he would definitely throw his money at has been veterans, playing the role of George II. Cuban would get involved in the day to day operations of the team and treat the non revenue producing and non headline grabbing minor league system like an underperforming asset.

 

So does the Tribune.

 

 

 

 

That's Hendry. The Trib isn't an activist owner like Cuban would be.

 

 

 

 

Why do you guys say that? In basketball, your hands are tied even if you have money. See the Knicks- possibly one of the most hopeless teams in the NBA. The way to win in the NBA is way different than in baseball. The idea is to get premium players before you are at the cap, and when you get over the cap, you hope you have the framework for a championship. There's a reason why so many mediocre players in hoops are making the max. It's a different game.

 

And I beg to differ on the Tribune. Obviously, they are spending some money recently, but they are a publicly traded corporation who's main goal is making money. Case in point- Steinbrenner goes and forms the Yes network, while the Cubs give a discount to WGN.

[rawaction]

Again, how close have his teams been to winning the NBA title? I'm more interested in a NL pennant and World Series title. But maybe some are more interested in seeing the owner's face than the end results.

 

This is unwarrented critisicm. He has owned the team for 5 years and you are saying that in order for him to be considered a good owner he must have won a championship in that time? That's absurd.

 

If you read my previous post, it's not a World Championship, but at least make it to the Western Conference Finals - they may have done that once. But my point is what could he do that the Trib hasn't done in the past five years? And I'm an NBA fan, and it's my opinion that the Cubs are closer to a World Championship right now than the Mavericks.

 

I would disagree. The Cubs are going to have to get extremely lucky to even make the playoffs while the Mavericks consistantly get to the second round or further. I'm a basketball fan as well, and I think that a lot of this criticism of Cuban is based on his Reality show, his jumping on the floor, etc. You really can''t dispute his success as an owner.

 

That being said, I really don't think he would be the missing link, I just think that he doesn't diserve to be trashed like he is being here.

 

Over half the NBA makes the playoffs. 8 teams make the MLB playoffs. Not a fair comparison. And the Mavs don't get further than the 2nd round. They have never made the West finals. They don't even compare to the Spurs and Suns, and the same was true for the Lakers and TWolves in recent history. They are the Minnesota Twins or Oakland As of the NBA. Yeah, they make the playoffs, but they are a huge step behind the real contenders.

[rawaction]

 

Why do you guys say that? In basketball, your hands are tied even if you have money. See the Knicks- possibly one of the most hopeless teams in the NBA. The way to win in the NBA is way different than in baseball. The idea is to get premium players before you are at the cap, and when you get over the cap, you hope you have the framework for a championship.

 

What's the way to win in the ML? How do you explain the perrennial playoff teams (Min, Oak, LAA, Fla, and Atl)? Even the Cards and Giants have competed with less than top 10 payrolls.

 

There's a reason why so many mediocre players in hoops are making the max. It's a different game.

 

Do the names Mike Hampton, Denny Neagle, Preston Wilson, and Eric Milton ring a bell? There's just as many overpaid mediocrity in the MLB.