NSBB Free Agent Destination Contest - $100 Cash Prize!

[Tim]

To all: remember to edit your picks before clicking the submit button. Some guy named Tanner...something forgot to do that and ended up sending David Wells to Boston. What a moron. MAKE SURE TO EDIT BEFORE SUBMITTING!

 

Isn't the deadline past?

Deadline for submission is the 19th.

[Tim]

Serena's off to an early lead, but there will be plenty of people taking advantage of the early signings to jump ahead.

 

Given the fact that there's a $100 at stake here, how should I handle this? Should I:

 

A) Disregard points for free agents that sign before the entry deadline of the 19th

B) Run with it as-is and give the procrastinators an edge

C) Not count points for free agents correctly named after submission, (so give Serena credit for Castillo, but not Vizquel, for instance).

 

I'm open to whatever seems fair to everyone. No matter what, it seems that someone gets screwed by the fact that I didn't set the contest deadline aggressively enough.

 

Bad Tim. :x

[Tim]

Oh, the scoreboard can now be found at the bottom of the entries page:

 

http://www.northsidebaseball.com/Contests/FADestinationEntries.php

[Tim]

Serena's off to an early lead, but there will be plenty of people taking advantage of the early signings to jump ahead.

 

Given the fact that there's a $100 at stake here, how should I handle this? Should I:

 

A) Disregard points for free agents that sign before the entry deadline of the 19th

B) Run with it as-is and give the procrastinators an edge

C) Not count points for free agents correctly named after submission, (so give Serena credit for Castillo, but not Vizquel, for instance).

 

I'm open to whatever seems fair to everyone. No matter what, it seems that someone gets screwed by the fact that I didn't set the contest deadline aggressively enough.

 

Bad Tim. :x

or...

 

D) Modify the entries of everyone that submitted early so that they all have the correct entry for anyone that signs before the deadline.

 

This still seems unfair that many actually guessed the correct destinations for Castilla, Guzman and Vizquel but wouldn't get credit for that when compared with everyone else. :-k

[rocket]

D would probably be the fairest. That way, people don't get 3 easy points just for their procrastination.

[Joe_Cub]

I like C because no one got an edge if they sent it in before someone was signed and they guessed right. Even with D if your stuff is changed then what do you do if you had Guzman going to the White Sox and polanco to the expos because you cant change your white sox pick. or maybe everyone gets to change it and send it back in.

[Laura]

Am I the only person who is affected so far? Did anyone get Vizquel before he signed?

 

I don't think people should get credit for signings that were made before they submitted the form (like Vizquel for me, I obviously just filled in the form), but should for those made afterwards. I can't remember where I had Benson going, but if he does sign with the Mets within the next couple of days, more people will be affected.

 

I don't know what to do about the ripple effect mentioned; no easy answers. :?

[Tim]

Am I the only person who is affected so far? Did anyone get Vizquel before he signed?

 

I don't think people should get credit for signings that were made before they submitted the form (like Vizquel for me, I obviously just filled in the form), but should for those made afterwards. I can't remember where I had Benson going, but if he does sign with the Mets within the next couple of days, more people will be affected.

 

I don't know what to do about the ripple effect mentioned; no easy answers. :?

Three people had the correct guess for Castilla, three for Guzman and I'd have to check the entry dates to find out about Vizquel.

 

I think the most fair way to do it is to give credit to those who got their ballots in early and picked the correct teams before the signings, but not to give credit for anyone that puts down the correct answers for Vizquel, Castilla or Guzman (so far).

 

The moral of the story is:

 

Get your entries in now so that you have the best chance of getting as many people right as possible!

 

No credit will be given for already signed free agents when you submit your ballot.

[Laura]

Sounds good! :cheers:

[Cubsfan Beard Sauce]

Serena's off to an early lead, but there will be plenty of people taking advantage of the early signings to jump ahead.

 

Given the fact that there's a $100 at stake here, how should I handle this? Should I:

 

A) Disregard points for free agents that sign before the entry deadline of the 19th

B) Run with it as-is and give the procrastinators an edge

C) Not count points for free agents correctly named after submission, (so give Serena credit for Castillo, but not Vizquel, for instance).

 

I'm open to whatever seems fair to everyone. No matter what, it seems that someone gets screwed by the fact that I didn't set the contest deadline aggressively enough.

 

Bad Tim. :x

that's ok Tim. I say disregard the ones before the deadline. because a lot of people(me Rocket Tim. a few of the important people :wink: ) signed up early and it's not fair to give them points for past events and not fair to give us more oppurtunities(however it's spelled) unless you decide to go by %

[Cubsfan Beard Sauce]

what is the whole VORP thing? and what does it do?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Am I the only person who is affected so far? Did anyone get Vizquel before he signed?

 

I don't think people should get credit for signings that were made before they submitted the form (like Vizquel for me, I obviously just filled in the form), but should for those made afterwards. I can't remember where I had Benson going, but if he does sign with the Mets within the next couple of days, more people will be affected.

 

I don't know what to do about the ripple effect mentioned; no easy answers. :?

Three people had the correct guess for Castilla, three for Guzman and I'd have to check the entry dates to find out about Vizquel.

 

I think the most fair way to do it is to give credit to those who got their ballots in early and picked the correct teams before the signings, but not to give credit for anyone that puts down the correct answers for Vizquel, Castilla or Guzman (so far).

 

The moral of the story is:

 

Get your entries in now so that you have the best chance of getting as many people right as possible!

 

No credit will be given for already signed free agents when you submit your ballot.

 

That's probably a good way to go about it, but my only quibble with it is that people who submitted on different dates now have a different number of possible points that they can get. It's slightly unfair towards those who submit closer to the deadline, since some of the points that others were eligible for they cannot receive. I don't know how to fix this problem, but I thought I'd point it out. I say call the BCS!

[Tim]

Am I the only person who is affected so far? Did anyone get Vizquel before he signed?

 

I don't think people should get credit for signings that were made before they submitted the form (like Vizquel for me, I obviously just filled in the form), but should for those made afterwards. I can't remember where I had Benson going, but if he does sign with the Mets within the next couple of days, more people will be affected.

 

I don't know what to do about the ripple effect mentioned; no easy answers. :?

Three people had the correct guess for Castilla, three for Guzman and I'd have to check the entry dates to find out about Vizquel.

 

I think the most fair way to do it is to give credit to those who got their ballots in early and picked the correct teams before the signings, but not to give credit for anyone that puts down the correct answers for Vizquel, Castilla or Guzman (so far).

 

The moral of the story is:

 

Get your entries in now so that you have the best chance of getting as many people right as possible!

 

No credit will be given for already signed free agents when you submit your ballot.

 

That's probably a good way to go about it, but my only quibble with it is that people who submitted on different dates now have a different number of possible points that they can get. It's slightly unfair towards those who submit closer to the deadline, since some of the points that others were eligible for they cannot receive. I don't know how to fix this problem, but I thought I'd point it out. I say call the BCS!

Yeah, ultimately it came down to screwing the people who submitted early or the people who submitted late. If I've got to choose to reward one group over the other, it seemed to make the most sense to reward the people who got in their ballots early instead of later. After all, everyone had the opportunity to get their ballot in before anyone signed.

 

The early bird gets the worm, so to speak.

[USSoccer]

Tim,

 

You could edit out the FA's that have already been signed and replace them with another FA on the ballot. It would be a little work, but it would reward the early entrants by giving them a higher amount of possible points, and it wouldn't totally punish the late entrants, b/c they still have 50 FA's to choose from.

 

Just a thought.

[Tim]

Tim,

 

You could edit out the FA's that have already been signed and replace them with another FA on the ballot. It would be a little work, but it would reward the early entrants by giving them a higher amount of possible points, and it wouldn't totally punish the late entrants, b/c they still have 50 FA's to choose from.

 

Just a thought.

Actually, the way I've structured the database and the code, that would be a LOT of work. Nice thought, but not workable at this point.

[Laura]

I still think that Tim's solution is the most fair. It would seem that the benefit of naming the correct free agent before submitting (and getting a few more points) would be offset by the ripple effect of any FAs which were incorrectly named. For instance: I chose correctly for Castilla, but not Guzman ... so not only do I not get points for Guzman, but I also can't resubmit a subsitute FA choice for the White Sox. For anyone who spent some time charting out possibilities (not me!), getting one incorrect choice could lead to naming 2 or 3 other incorrect choices. And, if someone does name all the FA destinations correctly before they signed ... kudos to them, they deserve credit.

 

Since Tim is weighing the results by VORP, it's most important to name the top FAs correctly, and none of them have been signed yet. I'll eat my hat if the whole contest hinges on Vinny Castilla going to Washington. :mrgreen:

 

For some reason, I thought the deadline was Sunday night, so I spent about a minute filling out the form. :oops:

[CubbieFanInNewYawk]

Am I the only person who is affected so far? Did anyone get Vizquel before he signed?

 

I don't think people should get credit for signings that were made before they submitted the form (like Vizquel for me, I obviously just filled in the form), but should for those made afterwards. I can't remember where I had Benson going, but if he does sign with the Mets within the next couple of days, more people will be affected.

 

I don't know what to do about the ripple effect mentioned; no easy answers. :?

Three people had the correct guess for Castilla, three for Guzman and I'd have to check the entry dates to find out about Vizquel.

 

I think the most fair way to do it is to give credit to those who got their ballots in early and picked the correct teams before the signings, but not to give credit for anyone that puts down the correct answers for Vizquel, Castilla or Guzman (so far).

 

The moral of the story is:

 

Get your entries in now so that you have the best chance of getting as many people right as possible!

 

No credit will be given for already signed free agents when you submit your ballot.

 

That's probably a good way to go about it, but my only quibble with it is that people who submitted on different dates now have a different number of possible points that they can get. It's slightly unfair towards those who submit closer to the deadline, since some of the points that others were eligible for they cannot receive. I don't know how to fix this problem, but I thought I'd point it out. I say call the BCS!

 

Agreed. Especially the part about the BCS :P

[Joe_Cub]

won't it be a problem if 20% of all of the free agents on the list go someplace before the deadline??

[rocket]

sdwebguy is the only one who correctly picked Percival to Detroit.

 

 

 

cheater

[CubbieFanInNewYawk]

sdwebguy is the only one who correctly picked Percival to Detroit.

 

 

 

cheater

 

YUP

[Tim]

won't it be a problem if 20% of all of the free agents on the list go someplace before the deadline??

All the more reason to get your entries in early!

[Joe_Cub]

won't it be a problem if 20% of all of the free agents on the list go someplace before the deadline??

All the more reason to get your entries in early!

 

I did but everybody who gets them in late can put people in the right place like I said before. So the one guy who got it in early and picked the right place for percival gets points but everyone else who got it in early doesn't and has percival going to a team that might sign someone else now and then everyone who waits to put it in has a better chance of guessing where the other free agents go because there are less options.

[Tim]

won't it be a problem if 20% of all of the free agents on the list go someplace before the deadline??

All the more reason to get your entries in early!

 

I did but everybody who gets them in late can put people in the right place like I said before. So the one guy who got it in early and picked the right place for percival gets points but everyone else who got it in early doesn't and has percival going to a team that might sign someone else now and then everyone who waits to put it in has a better chance of guessing where the other free agents go because there are less options.

I'm convinced that the person that wins this thing will be the one who does the best job of predicting where Beltre, Pavano, Clemens and the other high VORP guys end up. To date, I can't see any of these signings impacting those destinations very much unless you picked Benitez going to Detroit.

[Sabermetrician]

I just made my picks and assumed that Monreal = Washington. Correct?

[Tim]

I just made my picks and assumed that Monreal = Washington. Correct?

Correct.