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Oh my God Toronto got robbed blind. What a haul for the Twins

 

That's a bingo

 

MM (12:38 p.m.) Martin is the No. 16 overall prospect per MLB Pipeline and Woods-Richardson is No. 68. This is an incredible return. Wow.

 

No way in hell the Cubs could have matched that package. Damn.

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Holy horsefeathers that's a heck of a return for the Twins. You could argue they got more than the Nats got for Scherzer. Good for them.

 

They should get more than Scherzer. There's an extra year of control on Berrios.

 

That said, I think it's a horrible trade for Toronto. I get it, they want to make a push, and with Berrios around next year, that gives them a window. Still, Woods-Richardson likely would help sooner than later.

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Probably not happening but you wonder if the Cubs dangled Kyle Hendricks, what kind of return would they get

 

I don't know, but I figure, with the contract and performance record, you'd get something solid. I kept on thinking that maybe the Angels and Joe Maddon might come in on him and perhaps offer at least one of their top 4.

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The Nats got jack horsefeathers for Schwarber.

 

Eh. Aldo Ramirez is a nice young arm who has hit A+. May not have the highest ceiling in the world, but there's velocity and solid secondary pitches. It looks like he's improved this year with his secondary consistency. He just turned 20 is having a strong season in Salem. Could definitely see him get a justifiable bump up a level, and he could be in AA next year at some point. I think soxprospects analysis is correct - more end of the rotation possibility, with a chance that at his age and development, he might have a mid-rotation ceiling if all the dominoes fell correctly.

 

Thing is, Schwarber's on a mutual option that he's likely to decline in an effort to get a long term deal. So, it's a rental, and for a guy who is hurt right now. The more I think about it, the more I think it's actually relatively solid.

Yeah, but you like every prospect.

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The Nats got jack horsefeathers for Schwarber.

 

Eh. Aldo Ramirez is a nice young arm who has hit A+. May not have the highest ceiling in the world, but there's velocity and solid secondary pitches. It looks like he's improved this year with his secondary consistency. He just turned 20 is having a strong season in Salem. Could definitely see him get a justifiable bump up a level, and he could be in AA next year at some point. I think soxprospects analysis is correct - more end of the rotation possibility, with a chance that at his age and development, he might have a mid-rotation ceiling if all the dominoes fell correctly.

 

Thing is, Schwarber's on a mutual option that he's likely to decline in an effort to get a long term deal. So, it's a rental, and for a guy who is hurt right now. The more I think about it, the more I think it's actually relatively solid.

Yeah, but you like every prospect.

 

Really? I do? Okay.

 

Again, Schwarber's INJURED. He's also a rental and heading to FA. Are you thinking they should've gotten a top 50 prospect for him?

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Toronto’s rotation with Ryu and Berrios up top and Ray, Matz, Manoah, Matz, and Stripling to fill it out looks fun. I definitely don’t think they got robbed blind, Wood-Richardson’s taken a step back and Martin’s positionless with questions about power

 

SWR's walk rate is concerning, but maybe I'm just a bit more lenient this year on pitchers due to last year. I think the fact that his stuff is showing well in AA is good enough. I recall Trey McNutt hitting AA and then we realized his stuff had backed up and also wasn't as consistent/sharp/good as we expected.

 

I actually never was huge on Martin. Thought he was a bit over-hyped last draft.

 

Still, value wise, it's very good. Maybe not so good that they robbed Toronto that badly, but gotta think Minnesota did well on this deal.

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Eh. Aldo Ramirez is a nice young arm who has hit A+. May not have the highest ceiling in the world, but there's velocity and solid secondary pitches. It looks like he's improved this year with his secondary consistency. He just turned 20 is having a strong season in Salem. Could definitely see him get a justifiable bump up a level, and he could be in AA next year at some point. I think soxprospects analysis is correct - more end of the rotation possibility, with a chance that at his age and development, he might have a mid-rotation ceiling if all the dominoes fell correctly.

 

Thing is, Schwarber's on a mutual option that he's likely to decline in an effort to get a long term deal. So, it's a rental, and for a guy who is hurt right now. The more I think about it, the more I think it's actually relatively solid.

Yeah, but you like every prospect.

 

Really? I do? Okay.

 

Again, Schwarber's INJURED. He's also a rental and heading to FA. Are you thinking they should've gotten a top 50 prospect for him?

 

Ramirez is also injured and would barely be in the Cubs top 30 if they traded for him. Schwarber has been a better hitter than Rizzo and Bryant this year and that's all they got for him. Ramirez has good numbers this year, and it could still work out for them, but comparing it to the Cubs haul for Rizzo, it's not close. I guess there is the risk that Schwarber doesn't come back this year, would have been interesting to see what they would have gotten if he were healthy.

 

Mostly, I was just trying to get your hot take.

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If dealing with the White Sox, Hoyer should sneak Jared Kelley into a trade

 

 

SWR's walk rate is concerning, but maybe I'm just a bit more lenient this year on pitchers due to last year. I think the fact that his stuff is showing well in AA is good enough.

 

It’s not just the walks, Longenhahen reported Woods Richardson’s velocity went backwards last year too.

 

Okay, I missed that. If it did go backwards, then it is a bit concerning.

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