Week 3: Chicago BEARS @ Atlanta Falcons

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Didn't get to watch the game today, but followed online. At any given moment, the Bears are either the best team in the league or the worst team in the league. They can't even consistently be a first or second half team. I don't know what to make of the QB change. If you're going to pull the plug on Mitch that quickly, why did he win the job? Maybe it was back-to-back unproductive halves. Maybe they weren't happy with his performance in the first 2 weeks outside of the 4th quarter of Week 1. Maybe they were tired of hearing about how they should have signed Cam. I don't know.

 

Matt Nagy is now 9-2 in September and 8-0 in Weeks 2-4 in his coaching career.

I was surprised Mitch one the job at the start because the trade and declining Mitch's extension seemingly pointed towards Foles being the starter.

 

One theory may be that the short camp affected Foles more than Mitch and the extra 2-3 weeks helped him close in on whatever system gap Mitch had. Given a full offseason and 4 preseason games, maybe Foles wins the job at the outset.

[raw]

Gonna be interesting to see this team going forward. Foles doesn't have Mitch's ability, but he's a much more coach friendly QB. I think Nagy has been wonderful as a playcaller for the most part. It will be fun to see a QB who knows where the ball should go nearly 100% of the time. But it will be complicated a bit by the inability to get it there on all occasions. There will be no threat to see a play like the 45-yard run from Mitch today, but there's more opportunities for plays like the winning TD where the QB knows what he's seeing from the defense, checks to a great play, and stands in the pocket in the face of pressure and make a throw.

 

If Nagy keeps scheming guys open and the OL keeps playing the way they are, there's no reason this shouldn't be a competent offense for 60 full minutes of football.

[Brian]

but there's more opportunities for plays like the winning TD where the QB knows what he's seeing from the defense, checks to a great play, and stands in the pocket in the face of pressure and make a throw.

 

yeah Mitch isn't doing this

 

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[Brian707]

Colts open as 2.5 point favorites next Sunday. I thought it would be more.

 

If the Bears can win one of the next two games they will be in good shape for a playoff berth as the schedule really tightens

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Colts open as 2.5 point favorites next Sunday. I thought it would be more.

 

If the Bears can win one of the next two games they will be in good shape for a playoff berth as the schedule really tightens

The line has been adjusted for big dick nick energy.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I don't even know what to think about that game. Every important player I can think of looked awesome at times and complete poop from a butt at times. Foles definitely looked more comfortable in the pocket and reading the field than Trubisky ever has. He still should have had two picks (that 4th down lollipop that magic'd its way through three defenders).

 

We are spending way too much on the pass rush to have a QB be able to take deep drops with impunity like that, but we did get there at key times and the defense really took over the fourth quarter when it had to.

 

I still don't think this is a good team. But it's not an awful team and it's a healthy team, and you can easily get to double-digit wins in the NFL by being not terrible, healthy and lucky.

[raw]

 

I still don't think this is a good team. But it's not an awful team and it's a healthy team, and you can easily get to double-digit wins in the NFL by being not terrible, healthy and lucky.

 

They still have 6 games against teams who are probably worse than they are. Win those and 1 against one of the teams who may be on a similar level (Colts, Rams) or the Bucs at home on a short week and you have your 10 wins and take your chances in January.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Didn't get to watch the game today, but followed online. At any given moment, the Bears are either the best team in the league or the worst team in the league. They can't even consistently be a first or second half team. I don't know what to make of the QB change. If you're going to pull the plug on Mitch that quickly, why did he win the job? Maybe it was back-to-back unproductive halves. Maybe they weren't happy with his performance in the first 2 weeks outside of the 4th quarter of Week 1. Maybe they were tired of hearing about how they should have signed Cam. I don't know.

 

Matt Nagy is now 9-2 in September and 8-0 in Weeks 2-4 in his coaching career.

I was surprised Mitch one the job at the start because the trade and declining Mitch's extension seemingly pointed towards Foles being the starter.

 

One theory may be that the short camp affected Foles more than Mitch and the extra 2-3 weeks helped him close in on whatever system gap Mitch had. Given a full offseason and 4 preseason games, maybe Foles wins the job at the outset.

My theory is simply this:

 

Pace, feeling embarrassed for the gamble to draft Mitch has forced Nagy to play him.

 

Nagy today said enough.

[WrigleyField 22]

Didn't get to watch the game today, but followed online. At any given moment, the Bears are either the best team in the league or the worst team in the league. They can't even consistently be a first or second half team. I don't know what to make of the QB change. If you're going to pull the plug on Mitch that quickly, why did he win the job? Maybe it was back-to-back unproductive halves. Maybe they weren't happy with his performance in the first 2 weeks outside of the 4th quarter of Week 1. Maybe they were tired of hearing about how they should have signed Cam. I don't know.

 

Matt Nagy is now 9-2 in September and 8-0 in Weeks 2-4 in his coaching career.

I was surprised Mitch one the job at the start because the trade and declining Mitch's extension seemingly pointed towards Foles being the starter.

 

One theory may be that the short camp affected Foles more than Mitch and the extra 2-3 weeks helped him close in on whatever system gap Mitch had. Given a full offseason and 4 preseason games, maybe Foles wins the job at the outset.

My theory is simply this:

 

Pace, feeling embarrassed for the gamble to draft Mitch has forced Nagy to play him.

 

Nagy today said enough.

I mean that would be super duper dumb if true. I try not to contemplate super super dumb logic unless I have really good reason to.

[Brian]

I don't think it's that sinister. Trubisky first was the smarter move, assuming it was as close as it was said to be in camp. Foles backing up is a known commodity, they knew he could come in when needed and run an offense. If Foles was the starter from day 1, that makes the season Foles or bust because if a move has to be made mid game or between games because Foles is sucking you've already told Mitch he's not the guy and we have no idea how he would respond coming in mid game or between games.

 

Mitch was done as a Bear if Foles was named the starter for Week 1 or he lost the job sometime in the season, they gave him the one last shot it didn't work out.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I don't think it's that sinister. Trubisky first was the smarter move, assuming it was as close as it was said to be in camp. Foles backing up is a known commodity, they knew he could come in when needed and run an offense. If Foles was the starter from day 1, that makes the season Foles or bust because if a move has to be made mid game or between games because Foles is sucking you've already told Mitch he's not the guy and we have no idea how he would respond coming in mid game or between games.

 

Mitch was done as a Bear if Foles was named the starter for Week 1 or he lost the job sometime in the season, they gave him the one last shot it didn't work out.

I don't really buy that we have no idea how Mitch would respond if he had to spell Foles. We've seen enough of his play to know more or less his ceiling.

[Soul]

Thinking positive, it’s sure nice to have made a QB switch without losing a game. I’m not sure I’ve seen that before.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I was surprised Mitch one the job at the start because the trade and declining Mitch's extension seemingly pointed towards Foles being the starter.

 

One theory may be that the short camp affected Foles more than Mitch and the extra 2-3 weeks helped him close in on whatever system gap Mitch had. Given a full offseason and 4 preseason games, maybe Foles wins the job at the outset.

My theory is simply this:

 

Pace, feeling embarrassed for the gamble to draft Mitch has forced Nagy to play him.

 

Nagy today said enough.

I mean that would be super duper dumb if true. I try not to contemplate super super dumb logic unless I have really good reason to.

Pace looks absolutely idiotic for trading up to get Mitch over Mahomes and Watson. I don't think it is in any way unreasonable to think he would push his coach to make something if him. He doesn't have to make it an ultimatum to Nagy, he could he far more subtle about it throughout camp and the offseason.

[UK]

My theory is simply this:

 

Pace, feeling embarrassed for the gamble to draft Mitch has forced Nagy to play him.

 

Nagy today said enough.

I mean that would be super duper dumb if true. I try not to contemplate super super dumb logic unless I have really good reason to.

Pace looks absolutely idiotic for trading up to get Mitch over Mahomes and Watson. I don't think it is in any way unreasonable to think he would push his coach to make something if him. He doesn't have to make it an ultimatum to Nagy, he could he far more subtle about it throughout camp and the offseason.

 

It would have been much easier to just bring in a typical backup like Daniel rather than someone while not good, but who could outperform Mitch.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I mean that would be super duper dumb if true. I try not to contemplate super super dumb logic unless I have really good reason to.

Pace looks absolutely idiotic for trading up to get Mitch over Mahomes and Watson. I don't think it is in any way unreasonable to think he would push his coach to make something if him. He doesn't have to make it an ultimatum to Nagy, he could he far more subtle about it throughout camp and the offseason.

 

It would have been much easier to just bring in a typical backup like Daniel rather than someone while not good, but who could outperform Mitch.

Not if Nagy was fighting that idea.

[UK]

Pace looks absolutely idiotic for trading up to get Mitch over Mahomes and Watson. I don't think it is in any way unreasonable to think he would push his coach to make something if him. He doesn't have to make it an ultimatum to Nagy, he could he far more subtle about it throughout camp and the offseason.

 

It would have been much easier to just bring in a typical backup like Daniel rather than someone while not good, but who could outperform Mitch.

Not if Nagy was fighting that idea.

 

So Nagy has more control of who they add to the roster rather than who is on the field?

 

Your logic is flawed from start to finish here.

[minnesotacubsfan]

 

It would have been much easier to just bring in a typical backup like Daniel rather than someone while not good, but who could outperform Mitch.

Not if Nagy was fighting that idea.

 

So Nagy has more control of who they add to the roster rather than who is on the field?

 

Your logic is flawed from start to finish here.

More? He has a big say, certainly, but where did I say more?

 

In what world would Pace forcing a Daniels hire over a protesting Nagy make any sense?

[minnesotacubsfan]

Pace most certainly brought in Foles to push Trubisky, but I'm not convinced Nagy wanted that after last year. Nagy probably just as easily could have gotten behind an Andy Dalton or Cam Newton. I doubt Pace could have.

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Pace most certainly brought in Foles to push Trubisky, but I'm not convinced Nagy wanted that after last year. Nagy probably just as easily could have gotten behind an Andy Dalton or Cam Newton. I doubt Pace could have.

Yes, Pace was desperate to make Trubisky work, but if he was going to bring in a viable challenge it HAD to be the one who cost a 4th round draft pick and many millions of dollars more than the other options.

 

What?

[minnesotacubsfan]

Pace most certainly brought in Foles to push Trubisky, but I'm not convinced Nagy wanted that after last year. Nagy probably just as easily could have gotten behind an Andy Dalton or Cam Newton. I doubt Pace could have.

Yes, Pace was desperate to make Trubisky work, but if he was going to bring in a viable challenge it HAD to be the one who cost a 4th round draft pick and many millions of dollars more than the other options.

 

What?

What do you mean what? The fact Foles has had experience working with Nagy makes an easier storyline, but let's not act like Pace is a savant when it comes to draft capital. Blowing up picks to "get his guy" is what he does.

[WrigleyField 22]

Pace most certainly brought in Foles to push Trubisky, but I'm not convinced Nagy wanted that after last year. Nagy probably just as easily could have gotten behind an Andy Dalton or Cam Newton. I doubt Pace could have.

Yes, Pace was desperate to make Trubisky work, but if he was going to bring in a viable challenge it HAD to be the one who cost a 4th round draft pick and many millions of dollars more than the other options.

 

What?

What do you mean what? The fact Foles has had experience working with Nagy makes an easier storyline, but let's not act like Pace is a savant when it comes to draft capital. Blowing up picks to "get his guy" is what he does.

"His guy" in this case being the reluctant QB acquisition that his HC was demanding?

 

Again, what?

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Heh heh heh

[minnesotacubsfan]

Yes, Pace was desperate to make Trubisky work, but if he was going to bring in a viable challenge it HAD to be the one who cost a 4th round draft pick and many millions of dollars more than the other options.

 

What?

What do you mean what? The fact Foles has had experience working with Nagy makes an easier storyline, but let's not act like Pace is a savant when it comes to draft capital. Blowing up picks to "get his guy" is what he does.

"His guy" in this case being the reluctant QB acquisition that his HC was demanding?

 

Again, what?

Yes. At least, the softer choice to compete with his busted draft pic

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What do you mean what? The fact Foles has had experience working with Nagy makes an easier storyline, but let's not act like Pace is a savant when it comes to draft capital. Blowing up picks to "get his guy" is what he does.

"His guy" in this case being the reluctant QB acquisition that his HC was demanding?

 

Again, what?

Yes. At least, the softer choice to compete with his busted draft pic

Look, Pace being loose with draft capital and aggressive to trade for his guys is a legit fact/criticism.

 

This "actually he desperately wanted to save his skin by promoting Mitch until Nagy had enough" or whatever, plus the other stuff is stupid.

[minnesotacubsfan]

"His guy" in this case being the reluctant QB acquisition that his HC was demanding?

 

Again, what?

Yes. At least, the softer choice to compete with his busted draft pic

Look, Pace being loose with draft capital and aggressive to trade for his guys is a legit fact/criticism.

 

This "actually he desperately wanted to save his skin by promoting Mitch until Nagy had enough" or whatever, plus the other stuff is stupid.

 

Desperate also may have been Nagy pulling Trubisky today, however, but from Nagy's pov