The 2018-2019 Cubs Offseason Rumors & Discussion Thread AKA The Rickettssss take a dump on EVERYTHING

[Rynomites23]

No - but is Heyward someone we want in the outfield through '23?

 

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In the "won't happen, but wouldn't it be nice" category of one team bailing another out of bad contracts...

 

Melancon, Will Smith and Tony Watson

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Heyward, Duensing and any two prospects SF wants outside of our top 3.

 

 

And then sign Harper.

It would make zero sense to free up money by getting out of one horrendously bad contract just to run right into another one

Are you talking about Melancon or Harper?

I’m all for getting out of the albatross that is the Heyward contract, but have zero interest in the harper sweepstakes

[Tim]

I'll point out something here:

 

Harper projected OBP in 2019: .399

Yelich projected OBP in 2019: .381

[Tim]

Jeebus, projecting for a .399 OBP? Theeeeeeoooooooo!

last four years: .460, .373, 413, .393

 

The .399 projection is probably conservative.

 

 

Same exercise for Yelich:

 

.366, .376, .369, .402

 

His .381 projection is probably a reasonable of a greater amount of history at lower performance vs more recent performance at a higher level.

 

 

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Harper is absolutely a better hitter (and a bit younger) than Yelich. The contract situation means that Yelich is certainly a better bargain. But let's not pretend that Harper is anything but a projected superstar for the first few years of his contract.

[Rynomites23]

Jeebus, projecting for a .399 OBP? Theeeeeeoooooooo!

last four years: .460, .373, 413, .393

 

The .399 projection is probably conservative.

 

 

Same exercise for Yelich:

 

.366, .376, .369, .402

 

His .381 projection is probably a reasonable of a greater amount of history at lower performance vs more recent performance at a higher level.

 

 

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Harper is absolutely a better hitter (and a bit younger) than Yelich. The contract situation means that Yelich is certainly a better bargain. But let's not pretend that Harper is anything but a projected superstar for the first few years of his contract.

The Cub plaiin and simply isn’t in a position to take on that kind of payroll commitment now and for that many yrs. plus, i hate being lopsided in payroll to a few guys. Prefer to spread around and keep from having so many holes. Theo miscalculated when he thought the group of young ones would all keep tracking. The danger lies now in trying to figure out which ones to commit to long term while re stocking your arms. I’m worried when the pitching starts falling off, that’s when real trouble begins

[Bluescale]

As far as this year, I completely agree with Theo in that if the current core doesn’t hit again, it won’t matter. The addition of one bat wouldn’t be the difference.

 

Yes, because the core's horrible failure to hit only got us to 95 wins last season. There's no way a bat like Harper could push this team over the top.

[Rynomites23]

As far as this year, I completely agree with Theo in that if the current core doesn’t hit again, it won’t matter. The addition of one bat wouldn’t be the difference.

 

Yes, because the core's horrible failure to hit only got us to 95 wins last season. There's no way a bat like Harper could push this team over the top.

With where we are with the luxury tax, players coming due, etc...whether he would or wouldn’t is irrelevant. The biggest issue to me is that whenever there was a launch angle homer finally hit, it was a solo. Take finances off the table for just a moment, adding harper still leaves you with the same solo homer [expletive] unless you peg this overpaid and overcontracted player ahead of the more proven launch angle guys and hope he gets a bunch of walks

[Rynomites23]

The .399 projection is probably conservative

 

That’s the impressive part.

 

Man, imagine going 1-7 with Harper, Bryant, Rizzo, Machado, Zobrist, Schwarber, Contreras...

Harper and machado? Is that your strat o matic team?

[NOLA]

Zobrist is on our superteam but not Javy?

[Sammy Sofa]

If the Cubs trade for Will Smith it has to be under three conditions:

 

- he must pitch in a custom Cubs colored genie costume

- every PA opens with “welcome to earf”

- he hooks me up with Naomi Scott

 

 

Please stop.

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[Butterscup]

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He wasn't too bad when healthy. I'm not against it if we'd use him as a Monty type guy after the All Star break/in 2020.

[Tim]

Are they buying into "any third starter could be made into the world's best closer" idea?

[champaignchris]

Why? Absent an upcoming trade involving Monty or Q that makes no sense.

 

And even then...

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I believe he had TJS in July so this is like a Smyly situation. It’s probably a two year deal. Have to keep him on the 40 man till season starts and then move him over to the 60-day DL.

[Derwood]

I've literally never heard of this guy in my life

[r_mack]

I've literally never heard of this guy in my life

He's terrible. Couldn't even pitch at spacious Oakland.

[Tim]

I've literally never heard of this guy in my life

He's terrible. Couldn't even pitch at spacious Oakland.

Weren't you the one with the "any SP can be a great RP" idea?

[Rynomites23]

ew

Ew based on?

[Rynomites23]

I've literally never heard of this guy in my life

He's terrible. Couldn't even pitch at spacious Oakland.

Did your battery run out on the last part....after he was hurt

[Rynomites23]

I've literally never heard of this guy in my life

Were you supposed to? Do you study other org’s minors?

[NOLA]

I've literally never heard of this guy in my life

Were you supposed to? Do you study other org’s minors?

What message board is this again? Of course people here study other org’s systems.

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[Hunter]

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Well for $3 I guess we could take a chance in 2020.