International shenanigans in Atlanta?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

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[CaliforniaRaisin]

Baseball America[/url]"]Major League Baseball informed multiple Braves international signings today that they will become free agents, multiple sources told Baseball America. Those players include shortstop Kevin Maitan, catcher Abrahan Gutierrez, second baseman Yunior Severino and righthander Juan Contreras, who received the Braves’ top four signing bonuses in their 2016 class.

 

The players will have restrictions on their free agency. BA will update the list of players removed from the organization and the rules regarding their next contracts as that information becomes available.

[Cubswin11]

Baseball America[/url]"]Major League Baseball informed multiple Braves international signings today that they will become free agents, multiple sources told Baseball America. Those players include shortstop Kevin Maitan, catcher Abrahan Gutierrez, second baseman Yunior Severino and righthander Juan Contreras, who received the Braves’ top four signing bonuses in their 2016 class.

 

The players will have restrictions on their free agency. BA will update the list of players removed from the organization and the rules regarding their next contracts as that information becomes available.

Man I hope we are able to get one or two of these guys

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Baseball America[/url]"]Major League Baseball informed multiple Braves international signings today that they will become free agents, multiple sources told Baseball America. Those players include shortstop Kevin Maitan, catcher Abrahan Gutierrez, second baseman Yunior Severino and righthander Juan Contreras, who received the Braves’ top four signing bonuses in their 2016 class.

 

The players will have restrictions on their free agency. BA will update the list of players removed from the organization and the rules regarding their next contracts as that information becomes available.

 

2 more names, also 7-figure bonus guys:

 

Venezuelan shortstop Livan Soto and Dominican righthander Yefri del Rosario, who each signed for $1 million in 2016, have also been informed that they are free agents.

[Cubswin11]

Wow that’s a lot of guys, starting to think the Braves FO killed a guy or something

[jersey cubs fan]

Wow that’s a lot of guys, starting to think the Braves FO killed a guy or something

even worse, they spent too much money

[jersey cubs fan]

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[CaliforniaRaisin]

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[Ding Dong Johnson]

damn.

[Banedon]

[Cubswin11]

What the Braves did was really bad and they deserve this punishment, but they only broke "MLB Rules" right? How didn't the Cardinals get a harsher punishment if they broke actual federal laws and MLB Rules? Was it because what the Braves did was easier to track/systemic in the organization and they couldn't pin enough of what the Cardinals did throughout the organization?

[Named After Maddux]

Also interesting that you haven't seen the Cubs attached to too many of the big names in the next IFA period:

 

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Could be really promising for the organization. I know Maitan has lost a few supporters, but that is an incredible talent and would be an enormous add to the system.

[jersey cubs fan]

What the Braves did was really bad and they deserve this punishment, but they only broke "MLB Rules" right? How didn't the Cardinals get a harsher punishment if they broke actual federal laws and MLB Rules? Was it because what the Braves did was easier to track/systemic in the organization and they couldn't pin enough of what the Cardinals did throughout the organization?

Braves situation allows MLB to fight against spending on international free agents.

Cardinals situation provided them nothing but the ability to scold.

[davell]

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Lol

[CaliforniaRaisin]

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Lol

 

This is my favorite:

 

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[Regular Show]

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Well, I guess now J. Coppolella and C. Correa can get together over a 6-pack and commiserate over the good old days -- you know, when they were cheating and getting away with it before they got caught lol.

 

[Derwood]

The good news is that the Cardinals hacked another team's computers and got less than a slap on the wrist

[SpongeWorthy]

what are the odds the dodgers are doing this too

[CaliforniaRaisin]

what are the odds the dodgers are doing this too

 

Very high. But so are the Cubs. There was definitely some red flags with the Jorge Soler signing.

 

Basically the Orioles are the only team that don't do penalty-worthy stuff in the international markets.

[DonnieD]

Well, now that a lifetime ban is in the cards you can bet that it won’t be a common thing anymore.

[davell]

Well, now that a lifetime ban is in the cards you can bet that it won’t be a common thing anymore.

 

Eh, I'm honestly not that sure about that. This is MLB coming down super hard on a team being super stupid. Coppolella and the gang were really stupid and brazen. Trying to package guys from different classes, including a year you're under the penalty? I think there's a wink-wink, nudge-nudge to how things get done in that market, but the Braves went a bit too far, plus they were stupid with hiding things. And trying to do a package deal with a 14 year old? They were just too brazen and too dumb. On top of that, Coppolella was hated by the rest of the league. If it were someone else, I honestly doubt the penalty would have been as harsh. He just pissed everyone off, by being greedy. And then by being stupid.

 

I think all this does is helps get rid of the buscones and makes teams cover their tracks a bit better.

[Proven Veteran]

Well, now that a lifetime ban is in the cards you can bet that it won’t be a common thing anymore.

 

Eh, I'm honestly not that sure about that. This is MLB coming down super hard on a team being super stupid. Coppolella and the gang were really stupid and brazen. Trying to package guys from different classes, including a year you're under the penalty? I think there's a wink-wink, nudge-nudge to how things get done in that market, but the Braves went a bit too far, plus they were stupid with hiding things. And trying to do a package deal with a 14 year old? They were just too brazen and too dumb. On top of that, Coppolella was hated by the rest of the league. If it were someone else, I honestly doubt the penalty would have been as harsh. He just pissed everyone off, by being greedy. And then by being stupid.

 

I think all this does is helps get rid of the buscones and makes teams cover their tracks a bit better.

Easiest way to fix this is to get rid of the caps and let players get what they're worth.

[javy knows my name]

Well, now that a lifetime ban is in the cards you can bet that it won’t be a common thing anymore.

 

Eh, I'm honestly not that sure about that. This is MLB coming down super hard on a team being super stupid. Coppolella and the gang were really stupid and brazen. Trying to package guys from different classes, including a year you're under the penalty? I think there's a wink-wink, nudge-nudge to how things get done in that market, but the Braves went a bit too far, plus they were stupid with hiding things. And trying to do a package deal with a 14 year old? They were just too brazen and too dumb. On top of that, Coppolella was hated by the rest of the league. If it were someone else, I honestly doubt the penalty would have been as harsh. He just pissed everyone off, by being greedy. And then by being stupid.

 

I think all this does is helps get rid of the buscones and makes teams cover their tracks a bit better.

 

So this is the closest I can find as far as an explanation of what the braves actually did. Did they basically just spend a ton more money than they were allowed under the CBA? What are some of the similar things that teams like the Cubs have likely done to circumvent the rules, but less "brazenly?"

[davell]

Well, now that a lifetime ban is in the cards you can bet that it won’t be a common thing anymore.

 

Eh, I'm honestly not that sure about that. This is MLB coming down super hard on a team being super stupid. Coppolella and the gang were really stupid and brazen. Trying to package guys from different classes, including a year you're under the penalty? I think there's a wink-wink, nudge-nudge to how things get done in that market, but the Braves went a bit too far, plus they were stupid with hiding things. And trying to do a package deal with a 14 year old? They were just too brazen and too dumb. On top of that, Coppolella was hated by the rest of the league. If it were someone else, I honestly doubt the penalty would have been as harsh. He just pissed everyone off, by being greedy. And then by being stupid.

 

I think all this does is helps get rid of the buscones and makes teams cover their tracks a bit better.

 

So this is the closest I can find as far as an explanation of what the braves actually did. Did they basically just spend a ton more money than they were allowed under the CBA? What are some of the similar things that teams like the Cubs have likely done to circumvent the rules, but less "brazenly?"

 

 

The stuff that's illegal that all teams actually trying down there do.....They'll make agreements with 14 and 15 year olds. They'll even package players together, to help pay the buscone(that's the players trainer) and to get a guy or two at a lesser price that fits your budget. I'm sure they'll give additional " gifts" too, houses and cars, etc, that are untraceable.

 

If you're going to package players together though...its ridiculous to expect it to slide, when you're getting guys worthy of 500k to a million dollar type of bonuses......For the 300k max, by funneling money thru the lesser players or buscone. Especially, when you're trying to package guys that aren't even in the same draft class. Or start packaging guys that are still two years out from signing. They were taking too much advantage. Its one thing to get a player or two into your class every once in a while, that's kind of shady. Its another thing to do it as often as possible, which is basically what the Braves were doing. And they weren't even good at hiding it. Honestly, I think most teams can still get away with these things. Because they're not insanely greedy about how often they go to that well......