Bears/NFL training camp opens

[David]

usually the #3 gets the scout team reps, right?

 

i wonder if they're going away from that in this case to get trubisky more practice reps.

[David]

oh and i hope this doesn't move the over/under :-"

[Thrilho]

usually the #3 gets the scout team reps, right?

 

i wonder if they're going away from that in this case to get trubisky more practice reps.

Yeah I'd wonder if the #3 has been partially to get him reps on the scout team, against the first team defense.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-mitch-trubisky-plan-real-talk-spt-0906-20170905-story.html

 

When Tony Romo quarterbacked the Cowboys' scout team at the start of his career, he constantly experimented with throws to learn what windows he could exploit and the amount of touch required on certain passes. He figured out what throws he could get away with against fast NFL defenders, so when he got his opportunity to start, he took off.

Makes sense to me. Get him daily reps against what should be a very good defense, give him time to learn the playbook without the bright lights on him if he screws some stuff up. Give him basically a second QB coach who can work with him while the actual coaches spend more time prepping for actual games. Then give him the reigns as soon as the head game has caught up.

[David]

usually the #3 gets the scout team reps, right?

 

i wonder if they're going away from that in this case to get trubisky more practice reps.

Yeah I'd wonder if the #3 has been partially to get him reps on the scout team, against the first team defense.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-mitch-trubisky-plan-real-talk-spt-0906-20170905-story.html

 

When Tony Romo quarterbacked the Cowboys' scout team at the start of his career, he constantly experimented with throws to learn what windows he could exploit and the amount of touch required on certain passes. He figured out what throws he could get away with against fast NFL defenders, so when he got his opportunity to start, he took off.

Makes sense to me. Get him daily reps against what should be a very good defense, give him time to learn the playbook without the bright lights on him if he screws some stuff up. Give him basically a second QB coach who can work with him while the actual coaches spend more time prepping for actual games. Then give him the reigns as soon as the head game has caught up.

 

I think the #3 designation in the preseason has been nothing but a formality and giving him a contrived goal to attain. The only depth chart that really mattered was this week 1 one.

[Thrilho]

usually the #3 gets the scout team reps, right?

 

i wonder if they're going away from that in this case to get trubisky more practice reps.

Yeah I'd wonder if the #3 has been partially to get him reps on the scout team, against the first team defense.

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-mitch-trubisky-plan-real-talk-spt-0906-20170905-story.html

 

When Tony Romo quarterbacked the Cowboys' scout team at the start of his career, he constantly experimented with throws to learn what windows he could exploit and the amount of touch required on certain passes. He figured out what throws he could get away with against fast NFL defenders, so when he got his opportunity to start, he took off.

Makes sense to me. Get him daily reps against what should be a very good defense, give him time to learn the playbook without the bright lights on him if he screws some stuff up. Give him basically a second QB coach who can work with him while the actual coaches spend more time prepping for actual games. Then give him the reigns as soon as the head game has caught up.

 

I think the #3 designation in the preseason has been nothing but a formality and giving him a contrived goal to attain. The only depth chart that really mattered was this week 1 one.

I was more thinking about going forward. I wonder if they'll have him running scout team

 

1. so he gets to play against a real defense who is running plays they'll really run that week

 

2. so he can develop timing with a set of guys. He's not going to get that with 20-30% or whatever of the 1st team reps that he'll get.

[David]

right, but he's not the #3. i'm just saying the previous preseason #3 designation was meaningless. it was never IMO to get him scout team reps, as you suggested.

[Thrilho]

right, but he's not the #3. i'm just saying the previous preseason #3 designation was meaningless. it was never IMO to get him scout team reps, as you suggested.

Ok, yeah the number 3 in preseason does seem meaningless since he played like #2 in the games. I don't know how frequently the #1 offense played against #1 defense in training camp so I can't say if his placement with 3rd stringers in camp helped him get reps against first team D without having to give him reps with the 1st team O. If it did then it makes sense to me.

 

But going forward, whether he's #2 or not, I hope that they give him scout team reps when he's not playing with the 1s on offense.

[David]

right, but he's not the #3. i'm just saying the previous preseason #3 designation was meaningless. it was never IMO to get him scout team reps, as you suggested.

Ok, yeah the number 3 in preseason does seem meaningless since he played like #2 in the games. I don't know how frequently the #1 offense played against #1 defense in training camp so I can't say if his placement with 3rd stringers in camp helped him get reps against first team D without having to give him reps with the 1st team O. If it did then it makes sense to me.

 

But going forward, whether he's #2 or not, I hope that they give him scout team reps when he's not playing with the 1s on offense.

 

(he is #2 - just not sure if you missed it since it's on the last page or not)

 

but yeah, that's what i'm saying... that is until glennon throws a pick 6 on sunday and the hero comes in.

[David]

mannely just said on the radio that he heard mitch will be splitting scout team reps even though usually the 3 gets them.

[Thrilho]

right, but he's not the #3. i'm just saying the previous preseason #3 designation was meaningless. it was never IMO to get him scout team reps, as you suggested.

Ok, yeah the number 3 in preseason does seem meaningless since he played like #2 in the games. I don't know how frequently the #1 offense played against #1 defense in training camp so I can't say if his placement with 3rd stringers in camp helped him get reps against first team D without having to give him reps with the 1st team O. If it did then it makes sense to me.

 

But going forward, whether he's #2 or not, I hope that they give him scout team reps when he's not playing with the 1s on offense.

 

(he is #2 - just not sure if you missed it since it's on the last page or not)

 

but yeah, that's what i'm saying... that is until glennon throws a pick 6 on sunday and the hero comes in.

Yeah I saw it. Should've said "even though he's #2" etc. Mostly I thought that article was good and wanted to throw out the Romo comp with respect to scout team. I give it a few games (yes bet the house on the over on that 1.5) but if Glennon wants to throw 4 picks against the falcons and get the show on the road I'm not complainin.

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So whats the point of having Mark Sanchez as a 3rd string QB?

 

i mean it's been said like 100x that sanchez wasn't really here to play, but to be a guy in the meeting room to mentor about what it's like to suck in the nfl and blah blah blah. his relationship with prescott last year has been brought up a lot too. i think it's a load of horsefeathers but clearly they believe he has value in that role as basically a coach under the guise of a fellow player.

 

for whatever reason I hadn't heard that. seems stupid to waste a 53 man roster spot on a mentor but whatever.

Yes and no, to start the season. The team is generally healthy, so you're going to have up to 7 healthy scratches on game day. If that healthy scratch was say, Ben Braunecker or Mark Sanchez does it matter? No, and you can keep Braunecker on PS.

 

Now midseason if the team is banged up... They may find they can't field a healthy 46 from their 53, and they may cut Sanchez to get a healthy 46 on game day.

[Guest]

 

So whats the point of having Mark Sanchez as a 3rd string QB?

 

i mean it's been said like 100x that sanchez wasn't really here to play, but to be a guy in the meeting room to mentor about what it's like to suck in the nfl and blah blah blah. his relationship with prescott last year has been brought up a lot too. i think it's a load of horsefeathers but clearly they believe he has value in that role as basically a coach under the guise of a fellow player.

 

for whatever reason I hadn't heard that. seems stupid to waste a 53 man roster spot on a mentor but whatever.

 

It's nice to have a veteran there to watch film with you and tell you what to look for and how to carry yourself. Coaches, even position coaches, don't really have the same effect as a peer on many topics.

 

Glennon ain't there to tell him which groupies have the clap, either.

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i mean it's been said like 100x that sanchez wasn't really here to play, but to be a guy in the meeting room to mentor about what it's like to suck in the nfl and blah blah blah. his relationship with prescott last year has been brought up a lot too. i think it's a load of horsefeathers but clearly they believe he has value in that role as basically a coach under the guise of a fellow player.

 

for whatever reason I hadn't heard that. seems stupid to waste a 53 man roster spot on a mentor but whatever.

Yes and no, to start the season. The team is generally healthy, so you're going to have up to 7 healthy scratches on game day. If that healthy scratch was say, Ben Braunecker or Mark Sanchez does it matter? No, and you can keep Braunecker on PS.

 

Now midseason if the team is banged up... They may find they can't field a healthy 46 from their 53, and they may cut Sanchez to get a healthy 46 on game day.

 

Isn't the number 3 QB a "free inactive?" Meaning they don't count against the 46 man game roster and can play in the event of injuries to the first two.

 

Wasn't in 45 active on gameday recently? I didn't realize it went up to 46

[WrigleyField 22]

 

for whatever reason I hadn't heard that. seems stupid to waste a 53 man roster spot on a mentor but whatever.

Yes and no, to start the season. The team is generally healthy, so you're going to have up to 7 healthy scratches on game day. If that healthy scratch was say, Ben Braunecker or Mark Sanchez does it matter? No, and you can keep Braunecker on PS.

 

Now midseason if the team is banged up... They may find they can't field a healthy 46 from their 53, and they may cut Sanchez to get a healthy 46 on game day.

 

Isn't the number 3 QB a "free inactive?" Meaning they don't count against the 46 man game roster and can play in the event of injuries to the first two.

 

Wasn't in 45 active on gameday recently? I didn't realize it went up to 46

Yep, they got rid of the emergency QB rule. So if you want to dress 3 QBs that's just your 46th man now.

[BigbadB]

If Glennon gets hurt against a top ranked defense, I think I'd rather see Sanchez out there than Trubisky getting his first NFL experience as the only other option on the roster.