Bears offseason

[WrigleyField 22]

Why do I feel like I just read some hilariously wrong Polian QB love this weekend from a prior draft? I mean, hes done this a long time so everyone has flops, but should this make us excited?

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'd be way more excited if Pace were fired and Polian brought in

[WrigleyField 22]

I'd be way more excited if Pace were fired and Polian brought in

Hey, if there was a need for like some high level advisor role, Polian would be cool, but lets not go pining for some dinosaur former GM who won one Super Bowl with prime Peyton Manning either. Yeesh.

[Guest]

I'd be way more excited if Pace were fired and Polian brought in

 

Polian is an old man who lives at the school.

[WrigleyField 22]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.all22.com/chicago-bears/bears-trade-mitchell-trubisky-threw-wrench-titans-trade-plans/amp

 

So basically Pace had a two pronged approach to hide his interest in Trubisky and work the phones to secretly move up. The former was so successful the latter was unnecessary. Thats getting pretty close to being a narrative we can accept, right?

[Guest]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.all22.com/chicago-bears/bears-trade-mitchell-trubisky-threw-wrench-titans-trade-plans/amp

 

So basically Pace had a two pronged approach to hide his interest in Trubisky and work the phones to secretly move up. The former was so successful the latter was unnecessary. Thats getting pretty close to being a narrative we can accept, right?

 

Pace is a horsefeathering genius.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Prong one: " Hey all you GMs, I wanna trade up to #2 from #3 OK?" Pace

 

"You're nuts" - The World

 

 

Prong one works

[WrigleyField 22]

Actually since Polian was brought up...

 

Buffalo Bills

'86 : 4-12

'87 : 7-8

'88 : 12-4

 

Indianapolis Colts

'97 : 3-13

'98 : 3-13

'99 : 13-3

 

Is it too soon to start a Bye Week thread and discuss the more favorable Divisional round opponent?

[WrigleyField 22]

Prong one: " Hey all you GMs, I wanna trade up to #2 from #3 OK?" Pace

 

"You're nuts" - The World

 

 

Prong one works

Huh?

[minnesotacubsfan]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.all22.com/chicago-bears/bears-trade-mitchell-trubisky-threw-wrench-titans-trade-plans/amp

 

So basically Pace had a two pronged approach to hide his interest in Trubisky and work the phones to secretly move up. The former was so successful the latter was unnecessary. Thats getting pretty close to being a narrative we can accept, right?

[Guest]

I think the confusion was surrounding the moving up from 2 to 3 instead of from 3 to 2.

[David]

I think the confusion was surrounding the moving up from 2 to 3 instead of from 3 to 2.

 

he said up to 2 from 3

[David]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/PFF/status/859767897811558402[/tweet]

[WrigleyField 22]

I'm just confused at his general point. We have, collectively teams trading up 30 spots for QBs and rumors of interest for trades up to 5 for the very QB the Bears picked, and some interest for unconfirmed positions as high as 2 and 3. Maybe most the world thinks hes crazy, but apparently the part of the world in his same position is pretty split on the matter. Edited May 3, 2017 by WrigleyField 22

[WrigleyField 22]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/PFF/status/859767897811558402[/tweet]

Yea, he's probably one of the more interesting UDFA names to watch. Assuming Royal is eventually cut, the number 5 WR spot should be pretty wide open, which is really like the no 4 WR with Whites health.

[davell]

I LOVE hoarding draft picks. But the people still pissed about moving up from 3 to 2 need to get over it. Pace cut the chance out he'd miss his guy. He didn't give up an insane amount to move up either. I didn't like it, because I just wasn't a fan of the pick. But, its a QB. If he feels THAT strongly, then you should probably be pissed if he did NOT make the move.

 

Now, I'm not happy with the REST of the draft. I definitely think they should have traded down again from 45. And with the group of TE's, I don't think that should have been were they went in the 2nd.

 

At any rate, its inconsequential. If Trubisky is a stud, Pace is here for the long haul. If he's not, then he probably doesn't get an extension after 2018.

[jersey cubs fan]

At any rate, its inconsequential. If Trubisky is a stud, Pace is here for the long haul. If he's not, then he probably doesn't get an extension after 2018.

 

why didn't I realize Pace had a 5 year deal?

 

 

That even further solidifies the idea he will get a chance to hire 1 more head coach after Fox. Trubisky does not need to be a stud for Pace to stay on past 2018. He's going to get paid in 2019 anyway and will probably get an extension after this year that will line him up with whatever the next coach gets, unless Trubisky absolutely falls on his face before then. He just needs to look capable to play NFL football to keep Pace around.

[davell]

At any rate, its inconsequential. If Trubisky is a stud, Pace is here for the long haul. If he's not, then he probably doesn't get an extension after 2018.

 

why didn't I realize Pace had a 5 year deal?

 

 

That even further solidifies the idea he will get a chance to hire 1 more head coach after Fox. Trubisky does not need to be a stud for Pace to stay on past 2018. He's going to get paid in 2019 anyway and will probably get an extension after this year that will line him up with whatever the next coach gets, unless Trubisky absolutely falls on his face before then. He just needs to look capable to play NFL football to keep Pace around.

 

I still think it'll be tricky to fire Fox, while giving Pace an extension, on some level. Fox "retiring" seems like the best way out, in my mind.

 

 

As far as Trubisky goes, over/under 100 passes thrown in 2017?

[Guest]

I think the confusion was surrounding the moving up from 2 to 3 instead of from 3 to 2.

 

he said up to 2 from 3

 

Um, yeah, he did. ADD

[David]

I haven't read this yet, but I'm gonna assume something interesting is said

 

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/05/02/nfl-chicago-bears-mitchell-trubisky-2017-nfl-draft

[jersey cubs fan]

At any rate, its inconsequential. If Trubisky is a stud, Pace is here for the long haul. If he's not, then he probably doesn't get an extension after 2018.

 

why didn't I realize Pace had a 5 year deal?

 

 

That even further solidifies the idea he will get a chance to hire 1 more head coach after Fox. Trubisky does not need to be a stud for Pace to stay on past 2018. He's going to get paid in 2019 anyway and will probably get an extension after this year that will line him up with whatever the next coach gets, unless Trubisky absolutely falls on his face before then. He just needs to look capable to play NFL football to keep Pace around.

 

I still think it'll be tricky to fire Fox, while giving Pace an extension, on some level. Fox "retiring" seems like the best way out, in my mind.

 

 

As far as Trubisky goes, over/under 100 passes thrown in 2017?

 

I believe they will go with the "mutual decision to go in another direction" approach. Fox will get paid to not coach in 2018, when he'll be 63 and coming off three straight crappy seasons. Fox would theoretically be available for another job, if there was a talented veteran team that needed a stable coach. But my guess is he'll ride into the sunset and fish with all the other guys while making occasional TV gigs (if those still exist by then).

[WrigleyField 22]

 

why didn't I realize Pace had a 5 year deal?

 

 

That even further solidifies the idea he will get a chance to hire 1 more head coach after Fox. Trubisky does not need to be a stud for Pace to stay on past 2018. He's going to get paid in 2019 anyway and will probably get an extension after this year that will line him up with whatever the next coach gets, unless Trubisky absolutely falls on his face before then. He just needs to look capable to play NFL football to keep Pace around.

 

I still think it'll be tricky to fire Fox, while giving Pace an extension, on some level. Fox "retiring" seems like the best way out, in my mind.

 

 

As far as Trubisky goes, over/under 100 passes thrown in 2017?

 

I believe they will go with the "mutual decision to go in another direction" approach. Fox will get paid to not coach in 2018, when he'll be 63 and coming off three straight crappy seasons. Fox would theoretically be available for another job, if there was a talented veteran team that needed a stable coach. But my guess is he'll ride into the sunset and fish with all the other guys while making occasional TV gigs (if those still exist by then).

I'm guessing the Fox cutoff for return is 8 wins. Pace, 3 (not my personal cutoff, just a prediction).

[David]

I haven't read this yet, but I'm gonna assume something interesting is said

 

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/05/02/nfl-chicago-bears-mitchell-trubisky-2017-nfl-draft

 

The day after Trubisky’s dinner with the Bears in March, the coaches conducted a workout. Trubisky’s college center, Lucas Crowley, snapped balls, and Trubisky did three-, five- and seven-step dropbacks. Former UNC wideouts Ryan Switzer (a fourth-round pick of the Cowboys) and Bug Howard (an undrafted free agent who signed with the Colts), plus tight end Jack Tabb (a 2015 UNC grad), ran routes. The session, which lasted about 90 minutes, went according to the Bears’ detailed script. Trubisky says he threw just about every throw on the route tree in their system.

 

“They were coaching me as if I was already on the team,” Trubisky says. “I think they wanted to see how I respond to coaching, how I adjust on the fly. I always tried my best when a team came to visit, but this was one of my better workouts.”

 

Before leaving, Pace asked Trubisky for a favor: Keep the workout under wraps. Trubisky obeyed. When other teams asked, he didn’t tell them Chicago had come to visit. The Bears were just as coy. They sent only director of college scouting Mark Sadowski, national scout Ryan Kessenich and area scout Chris Prescott to Trubisky’s actual pro day. (By contrast, not only did Fox, Loggains, Lucas, Pace and Ragone attend Deshaun Watson’s pro day at Clemson, but Fox spent nearly the entire session talking to Tigers coach Dabo Swinney).

 

Pace says he watched every snap Trubisky took in college, including the 2014 and 2015 seasons, when he sometimes relieved starter Marquise Williams. “Every time he got in the game,” Pace says, “something happened in a positive way.” Pace also says he saw Trubisky “play live multiple times,” though sources say the GM may have only attended the Sun Bowl and one other UNC game last season. To this, Pace joked that maybe he took in some games from the stands in disguise. The ultimate takeaway: The Bears did their due-diligence without sending up flares. Says UNC quarterbacks coach Keith Heckendorf, “I talked to so many different people throughout the process. I know early on the Bears had an interest, but I can’t say they did anything extraordinary.” Says Blake Anderson, who recruited Trubisky to Chapel Hill and was the Tar Heels’ offensive coordinator for one year before taking the head-coaching job at Arkansas State, “Sometimes when scouts came in to look at our players, they’d ask some questions about Mitch at the end. I don't think the Bears were one of those teams though.”

 

The Bears, like other NFL teams, learned that while UNC’s offense appears to be a basic college spread, Trubisky was tasked with full-field reads and more pro-style concepts than most realized. Heckendorf vouched for Trubisky as a student—and teacher—of the game. Last spring there were eight or nine practices Heckendorf missed while on the road recruiting. On those days, Trubisky ran the QB meetings.

 

Sources say the Bears preferred Trubisky over Watson or Texas Tech’s Pat Mahomes because they felt his skill set best fits Loggain’s offense—and because he is poised to get on the field sooner. But that comes with a caveat: Ideally, Trubisky won’t take a regular-season snap in 2017—even as pressure mounts in Chicago to win.

 

As to davell's question a few pages back wondering why Trubisky looked so shocked when they picked them if he had had serious interactions/meetings with the Bears:

On the day of the draft, Trubisky heard rumblings from his agent that the Bears might be making a move to get him. But Chicago never called to let him know. Nothing crystallized until Roger Goodell announced Trubisky’s name at No. 2. Then, just before 7:30 CT, Pace finally called to congratulate his new quarterback. It was the first time they had talked since having dinner in Chapel Hill.

[David]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-mitch-trubisky-coach-north-carolina-spt-0503-20170502-story.html

 

This is a good read as well (don't miss the other one on the bottom of the previous page)

 

To me, that's hard to teach. I think either you are or you're not. Obviously, there are some fundamental things you can correct as far as foot placement, body position and arm slot to try to create as consistent a release point as you possibly can. But as quarterbacks go, some guys can just put it where they want to put it all the time, and some guys can't. That's one of the things Mitch has really been blessed with. He's the most accurate quarterback I've ever been around.

 

It's something that we've seen every day since he was a freshman. That was one of the things that stood out the moment he walked on campus and walked out for his first practice. "Man, this kid is pretty accurate." We'd go days in practice where he'd throw one incompletion or one ball where it was an overthrow or a missed throw. Everybody would be looking around going, "Dang, what's wrong with Mitch today?" And I'd be like, "Guys! That's one throw! Every other one has been right on the money all practice long!" But that's the environment, the atmosphere that Mitch created because of what he did on a consistent basis. It just became what people expected from him because they were so used to it.

 

 

How did you see his accuracy shine in games? How did his accuracy change games for you?

 

Throws that some guys look at as being covered, his ball placement allowed guys to be open. Things of that nature. When you can put it where you want it, the windows can be a lot smaller, and you can still get the ball in there. Guys that are inaccurate, that means (receivers) have to be wide open for them to complete passes. That ability to put it where you want it, to be able to control it, allows you to throw into tighter windows, into smaller spaces, and do it with the confidence and consistency you need to be an effective passer. That's one thing that Mitch does really well, one of his main talents.

 

What do you sense in how he trusts his arm? And how does that trust show on the field?

 

You see it more in the man-to-man coverage stuff where a guy is on (the receiver), a guy is running with him. Not only the trust in his velocity and arm talent as far as how fast he can get it there, but also the ability to control where he puts it. He'll throw guys open, as opposed to guys having to get open for him to make throws. That's a big difference.

 

That's such a big deal at the NFL level too.

 

People ask all the time: What are some things that translate in his game? Why is he so highly rated in the eyes of the NFL scouts and evaluators? To me, it's two things that stick out. One, his accuracy and ability to throw the football consistently. Two, how fast he's able to process information. To me, those two things will serve him well as he makes his transition.

[jersey cubs fan]

the bears have to be pretty damn happy with how titillated the chicago media is with the new king