New Benny, and Other changes (Bulls offseason)

[Cubbie Swagger]

Maybe Reinsdorf is senile and he figures the Bulls can 2005 White Sox-their way to a championship.

Lebron could get hurt and we could get lucky. We aren't gonna beat the Warriors, though, that's for sure.

 

Although, I swear, we pretty much don't deserve another chance after 2014-2015 against the Cavs. We had every opportunity in the universe and still blew it.

[UMFan83]

butler isn't exactly a bad 3 point shooter btw...just isn't a great one. he's good. wade and rondo, on the other hand... but wade has at least never had a PER lower than 20 in his career. he still knows how to be efficient.

 

Jimmy shot 31% from 3 last year. The league average from 3 was 35.4%.

 

He did shoot 37% the year before though so I'd say "average" is a better term that "good"

[Cubbie Swagger]

Calderon to the Lakers.

[bcl412]

This team is gonna be weird.

[bcl412]

Calderon to the Lakers.

 

Which Bull had a better Bulls career between Andrew Bynum and Jose Calderon?

[Cubbie Swagger]

Calderon to the Lakers.

 

Which Bull had a better Bulls career between Andrew Bynum and Jose Calderon?

I'm gonna go with Calderon, because it's so rare for an NBA player to be named Jose.

[Cubbie Swagger]

So, the best news is that we apparently get to keep Taj Gibson. At least, salary-wise. Who knows if we end up moving him in another deal. I'm not sure if we're rebuilding or not.

[Brian]

I'm going to be surprised if I watch over 48 total minutes of basketball next season.

[Liam Neeson]

So, the best news is that we apparently get to keep Taj Gibson. At least, salary-wise. Who knows if we end up moving him in another deal. I'm not sure if we're rebuilding or not.

 

We're retooling baby!

[davell]

So, the best news is that we apparently get to keep Taj Gibson. At least, salary-wise. Who knows if we end up moving him in another deal. I'm not sure if we're rebuilding or not.

 

We're flinging poo at the wall and hoping it sticks. We're not rebuilding.

[Derwood]

No word on what scraps/players-we-will-immediately-cut the Bulls got back for Dunleavy or Calderon?

[David]

So, the best news is that we apparently get to keep Taj Gibson. At least, salary-wise. Who knows if we end up moving him in another deal. I'm not sure if we're rebuilding or not.

 

We're flinging poo at the wall and hoping it sticks. We're not rebuilding.

 

lol that's exactly what "rebuilding" in the nba would be, only with a much higher chance of being terrible

[Cubbie Swagger]

I know this roster is a really awkward fit, but Dwyane Wade can still play. Don't forget that. He was nuts in the playoffs this year. It's not like we signed Kobe.

[David]

this is a weird team... butler is very very good, wade has been good up until now, lopez is good, rondo was good last year, but none of them really fit basketball wise, especially with what the coach supposedly wants to do. i have no idea what to expect. i could see an absolute disaster and i could see like 50 wins.

 

mcdermott and mirotic have shown flashes of being solid nba rotational players and at other times have looked awful...hopefully they keep getting better and it's more of the former.

[SpongeWorthy]

could be brutally awful to watch with a lack of spacing or fun to watch if the lineups are staggered properly and we get enough shooting on the floor in spots

 

mirotic will really, really need to step up his outside shooting

[davell]

So, the best news is that we apparently get to keep Taj Gibson. At least, salary-wise. Who knows if we end up moving him in another deal. I'm not sure if we're rebuilding or not.

 

We're flinging poo at the wall and hoping it sticks. We're not rebuilding.

 

lol that's exactly what "rebuilding" in the nba would be, only with a much higher chance of being terrible

 

We obviously disagree on the rebuild. This'll be interesting, no doubt. And yeah, I'm not sure whether this is a 30 win team or a 50 win team. If it misses completely, we'll see a rebuild though.

[Ryne Ween]

We have two guys who would be considered floor stretching perimeter 4s in Niko and Doug. Maybe they can find a way to add a shooter.

 

Niko was decent from the 3 with the most ridiculously useless inept offensive sets ever run by an NBA offense. With a somewhat competent PG and Wade I think Niko will look better. More good looks hopefully for Doug.

[Cubbie Swagger]

this is a weird team... butler is very very good, wade has been good up until now, lopez is good, rondo was good last year, but none of them really fit basketball wise, especially with what the coach supposedly wants to do. i have no idea what to expect. i could see an absolute disaster and i could see like 50 wins.

 

mcdermott and mirotic have shown flashes of being solid nba rotational players and at other times have looked awful...hopefully they keep getting better and it's more of the former.

Yeah... what's weird is that for the past few years, the Bulls have been this team of misfits that were good individually, but didn't fit together. We rid ourselves of Rose, Noah, and Gasol... and then go right back to making the team awkward again. I guess it should be no surprise.

 

I'm honestly super excited about the move. Like I said before, I just really didn't want to watch the Bulls tank. This might be a total disaster, but I am anxious to watch and find out. If we can be at least kinda good, I'll be happy.

[David]

this is a weird team... butler is very very good, wade has been good up until now, lopez is good, rondo was good last year, but none of them really fit basketball wise, especially with what the coach supposedly wants to do. i have no idea what to expect. i could see an absolute disaster and i could see like 50 wins.

 

mcdermott and mirotic have shown flashes of being solid nba rotational players and at other times have looked awful...hopefully they keep getting better and it's more of the former.

Yeah... what's weird is that for the past few years, the Bulls have been this team of misfits that were good individually, but didn't fit together. We rid ourselves of Rose, Noah, and Gasol... and then go right back to making the team awkward again. I guess it should be no surprise.

 

I'm honestly super excited about the move. Like I said before, I just really didn't want to watch the Bulls tank. This might be a total disaster, but I am anxious to watch and find out. If we can be at least kinda good, I'll be happy.

 

yeah, at the very least i'm interested in next season now

[Ryne Ween]

 

We're flinging poo at the wall and hoping it sticks. We're not rebuilding.

 

lol that's exactly what "rebuilding" in the nba would be, only with a much higher chance of being terrible

 

We obviously disagree on the rebuild. This'll be interesting, no doubt. And yeah, I'm not sure whether this is a 30 win team or a 50 win team. If it misses completely, we'll see a rebuild though.

 

We have discussed this I think before but a rebuild doesn't really exist in the NBA. The better and more accurate way to say "rebuild" in the current NBA is "not have multiple bad, expensive long term contracts on the books" and in the sense the Bulls are rebuilding because we don't have any of those.

[Cubbie Swagger]

And yeah, I'm not sure whether this is a 30 win team or a 50 win team. If it misses completely, we'll see a rebuild though.

See, that's another thing. This is only a two year deal, so we aren't even really disrupting our little "retool". The only downside is our draft picks won't be quite as high. Rondo's deal is only guaranteed for one year, so we have flexibility there. I really do think Wade will be able to help attract another max player in 2017 if the Bulls don't suck this year.

[raw]

this is a weird team... butler is very very good, wade has been good up until now, lopez is good, rondo was good last year, but none of them really fit basketball wise, especially with what the coach supposedly wants to do. i have no idea what to expect. i could see an absolute disaster and i could see like 50 wins.

 

mcdermott and mirotic have shown flashes of being solid nba rotational players and at other times have looked awful...hopefully they keep getting better and it's more of the former.

 

I think it'll be fun. I see a 50-win/4th seed type of team. Wade can still play. Butler can obviously play. Rondo will play if he thinks he has a chance to win or get more money in the future.

[bcl412]

this feels like a team i might throw together in nba2k but realize i hate it and start over because the spacing and what not would be so odd

[davell]

 

lol that's exactly what "rebuilding" in the nba would be, only with a much higher chance of being terrible

 

We obviously disagree on the rebuild. This'll be interesting, no doubt. And yeah, I'm not sure whether this is a 30 win team or a 50 win team. If it misses completely, we'll see a rebuild though.

 

We have discussed this I think before but a rebuild doesn't really exist in the NBA. The better and more accurate way to say "rebuild" in the current NBA is "not have multiple bad, expensive long term contracts on the books" and in the sense the Bulls are rebuilding because we don't have any of those.

 

Considering we can go into next year without Rondo or Wade, I can't argue that. But a rebuild, in my mind, constitutes adding the picks and young guys obviously. Let's face it, if those guys aren't here next season, its likely Jimmy won't be either.

 

Extremely wide range of outcomes now, which makes for entertainment.

[Cubbie Swagger]

Something I haven't seen anybody mention: the prospect of Lebron and Wade going head to head in the playoffs, both playing for their home teams.

 

See, GarPax did have the right idea here in a certain sense. A series like that is going to sell tickets and get ratings.

Edited July 7, 2016 by Cubbie Swagger