Bears @ Seahawks 9/27/15 3:25 CBS

[Derwood]

If I had told you a month ago that after 2 games, the Bears would have the same record as the Seahawks, you all would've taken it.

 

As would I, as would I

[RynoRules]

is there anyone worth sucking enough for that i can root for 0-16 if cutler is out for a prolonged period of time?

 

winning any games with claussen wouldn't even be entertaining

 

The draft is supposed to be way stronger this year. Top of the draft probably includes DLs Joey Bosa and Robert Nkemdiche, OT Laremy Tunsil and possibly even QB Jared Goff.

 

Bosa all day. This defense would have trouble producing back-ups on half of the leagues teams.

[UMFan83]

If I had told you a month ago that after 2 games, the Bears would have the same record as the Seahawks, you all would've taken it.

 

As would I, as would I

 

I would have taken it even if I knew that meant the Seahawks are 0-2. Hate those bitches

[ARCubsFan]

I'm not a fan of any of the QB's in this year's draft. I think you have to go for an impact defensive player like Bosa or Nkemdiche and wait until next year to see the QB class

[Guest]

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Highest % chance to have the No. 1 pick in the 2016 draft according to FPI:

 

Bears (22%)

Raiders (15%)

Bucs (13%)

Browns (11%)

Jags (7%)

 

all of those teams except the browns, possibly, have their QBs of the future. we will get the best one, whomever that is, I don't follow college football like you mooks.

[Guest]

I'm not a fan of any of the QB's in this year's draft. I think you have to go for an impact defensive player like Bosa or Nkemdiche and wait until next year to see the QB class

 

that's two years of tanking and i'm not cool with that. you should draft like you assume you won't get such a high pick the next year.

[tfarks]

Bears need to lose as much as possible and draft Goff. No question. The Cutler train is leaving the station, best case scenario is avoiding mediocrity - which isn't even working anymore.

[Banedon]

There's a bazillion positions on the field with bad players. If you're gonna have a QB that's surrounded by bad players, why not just keep Cutler for another couple of years while you get things in shape around him?

 

I mean, if there's a home run QB to be gotten, fine. But I just don't wanna force it.

[Guest]

There's a bazillion positions on the field with bad players. If you're gonna have a QB that's surrounded by bad players, why not just keep Cutler for another couple of years while you get things in shape around him?

 

I mean, if there's a home run QB to be gotten, fine. But I just don't wanna force it.

 

eh, those other positions can be found in later rounds, but you rarely see a QB drafted after round 1, or even after the top 10 picks that ever does anything.

 

if you have a top 3 pick and you feel comfortable that Goff is worth it, you do it. And that's assuming Cutler is starting next year.

[Guest]

i'm starting to look at some videos of Fales in college and I have to say, they're impressive. he has escapability, unlike Claussen, he has a really really pretty and quick release, unlike Claussen. And it's worth noting that in 2012 he was 3rd in the NCAA YPA and 1st in completion percentage, that's impressive, even if it was the WAC.

 

The only questions i have with him are his ability to be calm in an NFL pocket and at times he puts things up for grabs, not unlike Cutler.

[jersey cubs fan]

There's a bazillion positions on the field with bad players. If you're gonna have a QB that's surrounded by bad players, why not just keep Cutler for another couple of years while you get things in shape around him?

 

I mean, if there's a home run QB to be gotten, fine. But I just don't wanna force it.

 

eh, those other positions can be found in later rounds, but you rarely see a QB drafted after round 1, or even after the top 10 picks that ever does anything.

 

if you have a top 3 pick and you feel comfortable that Goff is worth it, you do it. And that's assuming Cutler is starting next year.

 

It's really not that rare, once you take into account how few really good QBs there are in general. Last year's Super Bowl saw a 3rd rounder vs a 6th rounder. The best QB in the league was taken way outside the top 10 and several other quality QBs were taken outside the top 10. I would much rather be a team littered with talent throughout the roster with a second rate QB than one of the teams that waste early picks on top 10 QB busts every year. If there isn't a superstar, do not take one.

[Guest]

There's a bazillion positions on the field with bad players. If you're gonna have a QB that's surrounded by bad players, why not just keep Cutler for another couple of years while you get things in shape around him?

 

I mean, if there's a home run QB to be gotten, fine. But I just don't wanna force it.

 

eh, those other positions can be found in later rounds, but you rarely see a QB drafted after round 1, or even after the top 10 picks that ever does anything.

 

if you have a top 3 pick and you feel comfortable that Goff is worth it, you do it. And that's assuming Cutler is starting next year.

 

It's really not that rare, once you take into account how few really good QBs there are in general. Last year's Super Bowl saw a 3rd rounder vs a 6th rounder. The best QB in the league was taken way outside the top 10 and several other quality QBs were taken outside the top 10. I would much rather be a team littered with talent throughout the roster with a second rate QB than one of the teams that waste early picks on top 10 QB busts every year. If there isn't a superstar, do not take one.

 

you make a fair point, but the Bears will never go anywhere without a good QB. a Cutler-level talent at the absolute minimum. The irony is that a QB like Cutler will keep you out of the top 5 picks indefinitely. if you think someone is better than him, you pick him.

[Guest]

There's a bazillion positions on the field with bad players. If you're gonna have a QB that's surrounded by bad players, why not just keep Cutler for another couple of years while you get things in shape around him?

 

I mean, if there's a home run QB to be gotten, fine. But I just don't wanna force it.

 

eh, those other positions can be found in later rounds, but you rarely see a QB drafted after round 1, or even after the top 10 picks that ever does anything.

 

if you have a top 3 pick and you feel comfortable that Goff is worth it, you do it. And that's assuming Cutler is starting next year.

 

It's really not that rare, once you take into account how few really good QBs there are in general. Last year's Super Bowl saw a 3rd rounder vs a 6th rounder. The best QB in the league was taken way outside the top 10 and several other quality QBs were taken outside the top 10. I would much rather be a team littered with talent throughout the roster with a second rate QB than one of the teams that waste early picks on top 10 QB busts every year. If there isn't a superstar, do not take one.

Yea, you can't force your hand with any particular position. That said you should be prepared to overpay for QBs. A second tier QB is worth a top 5 pick, even if the gap between the elite and tier two is really big. I don't think you'd say that about any other position, other than MAYBE DE.

 

Brady is obviously the exceptions of all exceptions, though and you can't expect to find that talent outside the first round.

[jersey cubs fan]

Brady is obviously the exceptions of all exceptions, though and you can't expect to find that talent outside the first round.

 

You can't count on it but you can't ignore him and all the other non top 10 QBs either. Brady, Wilson, Roethlisberger, Dalton, Romo, Rodgers, Brees and Flacco were all non top ten guys. Sure, you have to be prepared to spend a top pick on a QB, but if you have a top 3 pick and there are obvious top 3 talents at other positions (and the Bears currently need help at every single position) without any top 3 caliber QB, draft the talent 1st and look QB at 33/34/35.

 

I could be genuinely excited about the idea of a stud non-QB taken in the first, a QB 2nd and then some filler the rest of the way plus a couple free agents and Cutler in 2016. We've known all along that Cutler was going to be on the roster through 2016. If that season is a failure again you will get another top ten pick and another shot. Do not force the QB issue this offseason. Let one come to you if it happens, but don't pull the trigger because it's the easy decision.

[Guest]

Well I was careful to specify round 1 as a cutoff and not top 10. But there is a huge difference even between bottom top ten guys like Big Ben and someone like Brady. The only recent guy I can think of near Brady's realm outside round one is Bree's who was Round 2 pick 1. Yea you could probably more reasonably hope to grab a Dalton or Russell after round one, but not a unquestionably elite QB like Brady, Luck, Rodgers.

[JonJayCutler]

Well we weren't going to win this game even with Cutler, and we can beat Oakland with Clausen.

 

Then Jay will return to lead the 1-3 Bears to back-to-back road wins at KC and DET. Season back on at 3-3, you'll see.

[cubbyvirus00]

Well we weren't going to win this game even with Cutler, and we can beat Oakland with Clausen.

 

Then Jay will return to lead the 1-3 Bears to back-to-back road wins at KC and DET. Season back on at 3-3, you'll see.

 

Are you drunk? The Bears can't beat Oakland if Mack and Smith are sitting on Clausen's head repeatedly. The Raiders are on the come up.

 

I would like Goff as our next QB, however I am leaning towards BPA for a top 5 pick. The Bears cant afford anymore busts.

 

Sidenote: Did Emery do anything right? All of his picks pretty much blow except for a Guard.

[Banedon]

Well we weren't going to win this game even with Cutler, and we can beat Oakland with Clausen.

 

Then Jay will return to lead the 1-3 Bears to back-to-back road wins at KC and DET. Season back on at 3-3, you'll see.

 

Are you drunk? The Bears can't beat Oakland if Mack and Smith are sitting on Clausen's head repeatedly. The Raiders are on the come up.

 

I would like Goff as our next QB, however I am leaning towards BPA for a top 5 pick. The Bears cant afford anymore busts.

 

Sidenote: Did Emery do anything right? All of his picks pretty much blow except for a Guard.

 

Alshon

[JonJayCutler]

Well we weren't going to win this game even with Cutler, and we can beat Oakland with Clausen.

 

Then Jay will return to lead the 1-3 Bears to back-to-back road wins at KC and DET. Season back on at 3-3, you'll see.

 

Are you drunk? The Bears can't beat Oakland if Mack and Smith are sitting on Clausen's head repeatedly. The Raiders are on the come up.

 

I would like Goff as our next QB, however I am leaning towards BPA for a top 5 pick. The Bears cant afford anymore busts.

 

Sidenote: Did Emery do anything right? All of his picks pretty much blow except for a Guard.

 

Yeah, because I was totally serious.

[ARCubsFan]

Well we weren't going to win this game even with Cutler, and we can beat Oakland with Clausen.

 

Then Jay will return to lead the 1-3 Bears to back-to-back road wins at KC and DET. Season back on at 3-3, you'll see.

 

Are you drunk? The Bears can't beat Oakland if Mack and Smith are sitting on Clausen's head repeatedly. The Raiders are on the come up.

 

I would like Goff as our next QB, however I am leaning towards BPA for a top 5 pick. The Bears cant afford anymore busts.

 

Sidenote: Did Emery do anything right? All of his picks pretty much blow except for a Guard.

I mean he did take Alshon Jeffery in the 2nd round

[jersey cubs fan]

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[Guest]

You can pretty much close the book on his first two drafts. His last draft still has at least this season to grade out, IMO.

 

McClellin- maybe he's an average starter at his third position? (a generally non impact position)

Jeffery- really his only pick to exceed expectations

Brandon Harris - out of league, combo of injuries (known going in) and play

Evan Rodriguez - out of league, combo of legal issues (known going in) and play

Isaiah Frey - a part timer for three seasons truthfully isn't awful for a 6th rounder, but you have to exceed expectations at some point

Greg McCoy - nada

Kyle Long- if you're drafting an interior lineman in the first, he's basically the outcome you'd expect.

Jon Bostic - combo of looking lost and injuries has pretty much closed his door

Kahseem Greene - I liked this pick at the time, but not even sure he was a useful ST

Jordan Mills- not many 5th rounders have their best career game week 1 of their rookie year... That pick went downhill fast...

Cornelius Washington- if he can come back next year and continue to be a ST contributor for a while it's fair value... But see Frey, Isaiah

Marquess Wilson- still the most unknown - the best remaining bet to exceed draft slot - but not if he doesn't put it together the next few weeks

The 2014 book I'll leave open, but each week lessens the chance that any of these guys become mainstays (other than a punter, I guess :-/ ) I think Ego or Sutton could eventually meet expectations and I'd like to hold out hope Fuller can be salvaged somewhat, but I honestly have no idea if he can. You can add Jones as a likely success from UDFA. Perry if he comes back and is a ST ace is a nice UDFA find. But having to hang your hat on UDFA becoming ST studs or second rounders being rotation pieces is not a good thing.

[jersey cubs fan]

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[jersey cubs fan]

fales to roster Callahan released

[Wilson A2000]

Chancellor coming back to the team