Minor League Discussion & Boxes 6-25-14

[Guest]

Is it more that it's harder to get that development in a year or two later, or is it that the guys talented enough to become good generally don't miss that development time because they play baseball all the time (because they're really good at it) and don't get in to the game later or take time off for whatever reason?

Well, there's being hurt that can cause missed development time, too. For one reason or another, guys who are good hitters generally have that manifest in game performance at an early age.

 

For pitchers, a guy either has arm strength or he doesn't - and it almost always starts to decline once they have filled out. But pitchers can suddenly improve command, sharpen breaking balls, learn new pitchers, change their mix, etc. and show dramatic improvement much later in their development than is typically possible for hitters.

[Guest]

Vogelbach monster HR.

It would be nice if he started going strong.

[scarey]

Vogelbach monster HR.

It would be nice if he started going strong.

 

He kinda has. He has an .857 OPS in June.

[Guest]

Vogelbach monster HR.

It would be nice if he started going strong.

 

He kinda has. He has an .857 OPS in June.

For an all-offense prospect, he needs to be stronger than that to have value.

[ChiCubsFan]

From TT's post in the other thread:

 

Vogelbach

Pre 5/15: 144 PA, .242/.319/.320/.639, 17% K%, 10% BB%

Since 5/15: 155 PA, .299/.400/.530/.930, 18% K%, 12% BB%

 

Can't argue with .930. Especially with a pretty solid K/BB%.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

From TT's post in the other thread:

 

Vogelbach

Pre 5/15: 144 PA, .242/.319/.320/.639, 17% K%, 10% BB%

Since 5/15: 155 PA, .299/.400/.530/.930, 18% K%, 12% BB%

 

Can't argue with .930. Especially with a pretty solid K/BB%.

 

But he doesn't have a .930 OPS. He has a .785 OPS.

[Sammy Sofa]

It's unfortunate, because the douchebag is strong with that one.

[Guest]

From TT's post in the other thread:

 

Vogelbach

Pre 5/15: 144 PA, .242/.319/.320/.639, 17% K%, 10% BB%

Since 5/15: 155 PA, .299/.400/.530/.930, 18% K%, 12% BB%

 

Can't argue with .930. Especially with a pretty solid K/BB%.

 

But he doesn't have a .930 OPS. He has a .785 OPS.

Well, it has relevance considering his response was to my statement that Vogelbach really needs to get going strong.

[Guest]

It's unfortunate, because the douchebag is strong with that one.

Vogelbach or Kyle?

[Sammy Sofa]

Vogelbach, though if Kyle had actually ended up a pro athlete he might have been the GOAT at whatever sport he wound up in.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Vogelbach, though if Kyle had actually ended up a pro athlete he might have been the GOAT at whatever sport he wound up in.

 

That's tough. I'd like to think my douche game could hang in the pros, but you can't underestimate the douchiness of professional athletes.

[Guest]

Vogelbach, though if Kyle had actually ended up a pro athlete he might have been the GOAT at whatever sport he wound up in.

 

That's tough. I'd like to think my douche game could hang in the pros, but you can't underestimate the douchiness of professional athletes.

You aren't a douche. Douches get to see and touch boobs without paying.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I had no idea that was in the definition. Carry on...

[Sammy Sofa]

And to be realistic, douchedom is not a guarantee of success. See: Theriot, Ryan

[Guest]

I had no idea that was in the definition. Carry on...

Not really the definition, just the purpose of being one.

[Guest]

And to be realistic, douchedom is not a guarantee of success. See: Theriot, Ryan

 

I'd take $8.5M of success.

[SouthSideRyan]

Vogelbach, though if Kyle had actually ended up a pro athlete he might have been the GOAT at whatever sport he wound up in.

 

Not as long as Kasparov is still kicking.

[SouthSideRyan]

I had no idea that was in the definition. Carry on...

 

"Oh are we touching boobs now?"

[Hairyducked Idiot]

Vogelbach, though if Kyle had actually ended up a pro athlete he might have been the GOAT at whatever sport he wound up in.

 

Not as long as Kasparov is still kicking.

 

I bet I could at least out-douche Nakamura. And that's no small feat.

[Hairyducked Idiot]

I had no idea that was in the definition. Carry on...

 

"Oh are we touching boobs now?"

 

No. No we are not.

[Sammy Sofa]

And to be realistic, douchedom is not a guarantee of success. See: Theriot, Ryan

 

I'd take $8.5M of success.

 

So would any of us, but we're obviously talking about actually being great at the sport they're playing, too.