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muntjack

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Really hoping McDermott pans out.

 

Rose/Brooks/Hinrich

Butler/Snell/Hinrich

McDermott/Dunleavy

Gasol/Mirotic

Noah/Taj

 

Incredible bench and Thibs shouldn't have to run anyone into the ground.

 

Only trade id make for Martin is Dunleavy + a pick, and the only reason I do that is because McD is an unknown quantity. I'm as excited as I've been in a long time.

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Yeah, I agree that McDermott isn't going to start. I was saying I hope he pans out and becomes a starter, in which case that roster is excellent, top to bottom.
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I assume you're talking about Kevin Martin? Really like that idea.

 

 

Yeah, there's been a good bit of talk about the Bulls being the 3rd team the Love-Wiggins swap. If that trade went down (Dunleavy/Wiggins/Bennett/2 1sts to MIN / Love to CLE/ Martin to CHI)....

 

Rose / Kyrie

Martin / Waiters

Butler / LeBron

Gasol / Love

Noah / Varejao

 

Looks scary, though Kyrie, Waiters and Love are all abysmal defenders. CLE will also have to run that unit into the ground because......

 

Brooks / Lucas III

Snell / Delladvedova

McDermott / Mike Miller

Mirotic / Thompson

Taj / Haywood

 

The Bulls bench has the potential to be the best in the league. What do you even say about the Cavs reserves?

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I assume you're talking about Kevin Martin? Really like that idea.

 

 

Yeah, there's been a good bit of talk about the Bulls being the 3rd team the Love-Wiggins swap. If that trade went down (Dunleavy/Wiggins/Bennett/2 1sts to MIN / Love to CLE/ Martin to CHI)....

 

Rose / Kyrie

Martin / Waiters

Butler / LeBron

Gasol / Love

Noah / Varejao

 

Looks scary, though Kyrie, Waiters and Love are all abysmal defenders. CLE will also have to run that unit into the ground because......

 

Brooks / Lucas III

Snell / Delladvedova

McDermott / Mike Miller

Mirotic / Thompson

Taj / Haywood

 

The Bulls bench has the potential to be the best in the league. What do you even say about the Cavs reserves?

 

I'd gladly take Kevin Martin for Dunleavy and picks. I didn't realize he was 6'7", but he's a scoring SG, who would add some much needed ability to create his own shot and a decent outside shot. Plus, getting rid of Dunleavy would presumably open up some time for McDermott and Mirotic, which I think is important even on a contender.

 

That being said, Thibs will probably play Hinrich 35 minutes at the 2, with Martin/Butler at the 3.

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People on RealGM seem really against trading Taj to better the team (not even just in a Love deal)...look I love Taj and think he's worth the $8 mil a year, but the issue is that we have a glut of PF's that deserve minutes, Taj is the most tradeable asset among them (given verbal assurances from GarPax that Mirotic won't be traded at least this season), and we (IMO) have a huge need at 2/3. I would hate to do it but for the right deal I'm absolutely fine with trading Taj.
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People on RealGM seem really against trading Taj to better the team (not even just in a Love deal)...look I love Taj and think he's worth the $8 mil a year, but the issue is that we have a glut of PF's that deserve minutes, Taj is the most tradeable asset among them (given verbal assurances from GarPax that Mirotic won't be traded at least this season), and we (IMO) have a huge need at 2/3. I would hate to do it but for the right deal I'm absolutely fine with trading Taj.

 

Eh. I don't think there's any 2-3 the Bulls can get with Taj as the primary piece that will be enough of an upgrade at 2/3 to take the downgrade at 4/5.

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Exactly. We should also keep in mind that there is at least a small chance either Butler or Snell becomes a viable scoring threat. Having a two-way player at the 2 would be optimal. Getting a guy like Martin means Butler has to be on he floor with him, guarding the better opposing wing.

 

The more I think about it, I'd rather wait until the deadline to see if we need help.

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Exactly. We should also keep in mind that there is at least a small chance either Butler or Snell becomes a viable scoring threat. Having a two-way player at the 2 would be optimal. Getting a guy like Martin means Butler has to be on he floor with him, guarding the better opposing wing.

 

The more I think about it, I'd rather wait until the deadline to see if we need help.

 

I don't see the bulls doing any kind of deadline deal.

 

Why was Martin dumped by OKC? He seemed really good in his role there. Was it a cap thing?

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Exactly. We should also keep in mind that there is at least a small chance either Butler or Snell becomes a viable scoring threat. Having a two-way player at the 2 would be optimal. Getting a guy like Martin means Butler has to be on he floor with him, guarding the better opposing wing.

 

The more I think about it, I'd rather wait until the deadline to see if we need help.

 

Yeah, but Butler has to be on the floor all the time now, because there's nobody else.

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I feel like I'm tossing a steak into the lion pit by posting this quote...

 

“I’m able to control my body a little bit more, using my speed more, being smart with my speed rather than just running wild out there,” Rose said. “I’’ve become a smarter player, but I’m mad it took me seven years to learn it.”

 

“I think when I came back last time I wanted it too bad. I was trying to force the game,” Rose said, having missed a full season then getting injured on a cut just six games into his return. “This time around I’m trying to let the game come to me, of course be aggressive at times, but be in control of the game and be smarter, and be able to run the team at the point guard position.”
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Yeah, but Butler has to be on the floor all the time now, because there's nobody else.

 

Well, there's a nonzero chance that Snell becomes a viable 2 and his D is already superior to Martin. He could absorb minutes on the court with McDermott or Dunleavy without the D collapsing entirely.

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