2014-15 International Free Agency Thread

[Guest]

I explain all of this because when Moncada becomes a free agent will dictate which teams can sign him. The Red Sox were another club that went over their pool this year, along with the Yankees. If Moncada is declared a free agent between now and July 2nd, 2015, then those two clubs have an advantage as they have huge revenues and have already gone over their pool amount and paid the penalty. To sign him, any team would go over their pool and pay the overage, but teams that are under their pool would want their year to go over their pool to also include a full crop of July 2nd players to make up for the two-year penalty.

 

Conversely, if Moncada becomes a free agent any time from July 2nd, 2015 to 2017, those two clubs have no chance to bid on him because of the two-year penalty. Then, a whole new group of clubs could coordinate their international spending to roll three years of July 2nd signings into one year and also plan to make a run at Moncada, getting the most bang for their buck/penalty. With an international draft looming, this could also be the last opportunity any team would have to acquire a player of consequence under the age of 25 in an open market.

 

I get the latter paragraph because they won't be permitted to sign him unless he wanted 250k, but I don't really see how it's an **advantage** to have him in the year where they're over the pool. Everyone would be paying him + a penalty, so the issue is just a team's willingness to spend, which isn't really an "advantage" of the situation.

[Guest]

I explain all of this because when Moncada becomes a free agent will dictate which teams can sign him. The Red Sox were another club that went over their pool this year, along with the Yankees. If Moncada is declared a free agent between now and July 2nd, 2015, then those two clubs have an advantage as they have huge revenues and have already gone over their pool amount and paid the penalty. To sign him, any team would go over their pool and pay the overage, but teams that are under their pool would want their year to go over their pool to also include a full crop of July 2nd players to make up for the two-year penalty.

 

Conversely, if Moncada becomes a free agent any time from July 2nd, 2015 to 2017, those two clubs have no chance to bid on him because of the two-year penalty. Then, a whole new group of clubs could coordinate their international spending to roll three years of July 2nd signings into one year and also plan to make a run at Moncada, getting the most bang for their buck/penalty. With an international draft looming, this could also be the last opportunity any team would have to acquire a player of consequence under the age of 25 in an open market.

 

I get the latter paragraph because they won't be permitted to sign him unless he wanted 250k, but I don't really see how it's an **advantage** to have him in the year where they're over the pool. Everyone would be paying him + a penalty, so the issue is just a team's willingness to spend, which isn't really an "advantage" of the situation.

 

The only way it's an advantage is that three teams who have proven they're willing to go over the cap (Tampa twice, Yankees, and the Red Sox) will be out of the mix. Obviously the Cubs are still fighting 26 teams including proven high spenders like the Rangers and Dodgers.

[Guest]

Sorry, I wasn't referring to the Cubs there, I was talking about the implication that the Red Sox and Yankees had a leg up because they had already spent past the cap.

[Guest]

Sorry, I wasn't referring to the Cubs there, I was talking about the implication that the Red Sox and Yankees had a leg up because they had already spent past the cap.

 

In that case, their advantage would be that they'd be willing to pay any price since they've already incurred the penalty while at least some other teams in the field would want to avoid penalties and the Cubs and the Rangers are already eliminated from contention. I agree with your line of thinking though - it's not much of an advantage because if Moncada is that good, surely some other teams will risk the penalties and get into a bidding war.

[davell]

http://js.mlblogs.com/2014/11/04/angels-cubas-baldoquin-come-to-terms-on-a-deal/

 

Wow. 8 mill for a guy that I'm not even remembering to be a big name. Guess he impressed the hell out of someone though.

[CubsWin]

http://js.mlblogs.com/2014/11/04/angels-cubas-baldoquin-come-to-terms-on-a-deal/

 

Wow. 8 mill for a guy that I'm not even remembering to be a big name. Guess he impressed the hell out of someone though.

This is weird. Doesn't smell right.