College Football - Championship Week (Dec. 7)

[stuy119]

FSU gave up 17 TDs this season, and only 10 were from the 1st string D. Of those 10, 4 came against BC. In other words, the 1st-string D gave up 6 TDs in 12 games. I don't care what type of a schedule you play, that's impressive.

 

And, ESPN and others keep harping on the BC game due to their focus on the run and their success against us. While that seems to make sense, it doesn't take into account the personnel and scheme changes we made immediately following that game.

 

That having been said, Auburn's personnel is much different from what we've faced all year. Clemson is a similar scheme, but designed to pass more than run and get the ball to the outside. My biggest concerns are the Auburn DL vs. our OL, and the Auburn OL vs. our LB/secondary (if they can make it to the 2nd level, that is).

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FSU gave up 17 TDs this season, and only 10 were from the 1st string D. Of those 10, 4 came against BC. In other words, the 1st-string D gave up 6 TDs in 12 games. I don't care what type of a schedule you play, that's impressive.

 

And, ESPN and others keep harping on the BC game due to their focus on the run and their success against us. While that seems to make sense, it doesn't take into account the personnel and scheme changes we made immediately following that game.

 

That having been said, Auburn's personnel is much different from what we've faced all year. Clemson is a similar scheme, but designed to pass more than run and get the ball to the outside. My biggest concerns are the Auburn DL vs. our OL, and the Auburn OL vs. our LB/secondary (if they can make it to the 2nd level, that is).

 

Why do the 4 against BC not count? b/c BC is a pretty mediocre team? But, if there's one thing BC can do, it's turn 2* and 3* OL into a pretty solid group 4-5 years later (their entire OL this year has been in college at least 4 years).

 

FSU faced 1 good rushing team - BC at 20th overall. They faced 1 decent rushing team - Syracuse at 40th. They faced as many teams that finished in the 110s in rushing (Pitt and Wake) as they did top-50 rushing teams. Guess where Auburn ranks in rushing this year? (BTW - Clemson does not run a similar scheme to Auburn; Clemson's scheme is built on speed and passing; Auburn's is built on running your ass over.)

 

The defense gave up 17 TDs this season against a very, very weak schedule. Maybe they're a very good defense, but it's hard to tell given the opponents they've faced. But they are going to face a team that has been the best in the country at running the football. So they'll get a chance to show how good they are.

[GlassCow]

FSU gave up 17 TDs this season, and only 10 were from the 1st string D. Of those 10, 4 came against BC. In other words, the 1st-string D gave up 6 TDs in 12 games. I don't care what type of a schedule you play, that's impressive.

 

And, ESPN and others keep harping on the BC game due to their focus on the run and their success against us. While that seems to make sense, it doesn't take into account the personnel and scheme changes we made immediately following that game.

 

That having been said, Auburn's personnel is much different from what we've faced all year. Clemson is a similar scheme, but designed to pass more than run and get the ball to the outside. My biggest concerns are the Auburn DL vs. our OL, and the Auburn OL vs. our LB/secondary (if they can make it to the 2nd level, that is).

 

stuy - first of all, congrats on FSU dominating all year long. Well deserved to get to the title game. I believe you will beat Auburn, but my big fear if I'm Fisher is how to simulate Auburn's running game in practice. The Noles haven't seen anything like it, and you don't necessarily want your defense learning on the job in a deal like this one. I'll be cheering for your boys, as I am more than tired of the SEC.

[stuy119]

FSU gave up 17 TDs this season, and only 10 were from the 1st string D. Of those 10, 4 came against BC. In other words, the 1st-string D gave up 6 TDs in 12 games. I don't care what type of a schedule you play, that's impressive.

 

And, ESPN and others keep harping on the BC game due to their focus on the run and their success against us. While that seems to make sense, it doesn't take into account the personnel and scheme changes we made immediately following that game.

 

That having been said, Auburn's personnel is much different from what we've faced all year. Clemson is a similar scheme, but designed to pass more than run and get the ball to the outside. My biggest concerns are the Auburn DL vs. our OL, and the Auburn OL vs. our LB/secondary (if they can make it to the 2nd level, that is).

 

stuy - first of all, congrats on FSU dominating all year long. Well deserved to get to the title game. I believe you will beat Auburn, but my big fear if I'm Fisher is how to simulate Auburn's running game in practice. The Noles haven't seen anything like it, and you don't necessarily want your defense learning on the job in a deal like this one. I'll be cheering for your boys, as I am more than tired of the SEC.

 

Not that worried TBH. From what I understand, some of our athletes who are in waiting are more than gifted enough to simulate the speed and size that they'll be facing.

 

As someone else who has endured a decade of mediocrity after much dominance, I hope you get to experience this again. It's a whole bunch of fun, moreso than I had remembered. Not having to worry about a win from week-to-week makes the football experience a whole lot less stressful.

[stuy119]

Why do the 4 against BC not count? b/c BC is a pretty mediocre team? But, if there's one thing BC can do, it's turn 2* and 3* OL into a pretty solid group 4-5 years later (their entire OL this year has been in college at least 4 years).

 

FSU faced 1 good rushing team - BC at 20th overall. They faced 1 decent rushing team - Syracuse at 40th. They faced as many teams that finished in the 110s in rushing (Pitt and Wake) as they did top-50 rushing teams. Guess where Auburn ranks in rushing this year? (BTW - Clemson does not run a similar scheme to Auburn; Clemson's scheme is built on speed and passing; Auburn's is built on running your ass over.)

 

The defense gave up 17 TDs this season against a very, very weak schedule. Maybe they're a very good defense, but it's hard to tell given the opponents they've faced. But they are going to face a team that has been the best in the country at running the football. So they'll get a chance to show how good they are.

 

We'll have to wait and see. All I'm saying is that you (and everyone else) might not be looking at the right things if you're using BC as a comparable game to what we'll see in Auburn.

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Why do the 4 against BC not count? b/c BC is a pretty mediocre team? But, if there's one thing BC can do, it's turn 2* and 3* OL into a pretty solid group 4-5 years later (their entire OL this year has been in college at least 4 years).

 

FSU faced 1 good rushing team - BC at 20th overall. They faced 1 decent rushing team - Syracuse at 40th. They faced as many teams that finished in the 110s in rushing (Pitt and Wake) as they did top-50 rushing teams. Guess where Auburn ranks in rushing this year? (BTW - Clemson does not run a similar scheme to Auburn; Clemson's scheme is built on speed and passing; Auburn's is built on running your ass over.)

 

The defense gave up 17 TDs this season against a very, very weak schedule. Maybe they're a very good defense, but it's hard to tell given the opponents they've faced. But they are going to face a team that has been the best in the country at running the football. So they'll get a chance to show how good they are.

 

We'll have to wait and see. All I'm saying is that you (and everyone else) might not be looking at the right things if you're using BC as a comparable game to what we'll see in Auburn.

 

I'm actually saying that we should wait and see. I haven't seen enough from FSU, due to the "strength" of their opponents, to conclude that their defense is good. Their stats, overall, look good. Their performance against the only good running team they've faced, looks bad. Given how good Auburn's rushing attack has been, I think FSU's defense could be in for a rough ride, but I don't really know.

 

All that said, I expect FSU to win.

[fiver]

The debate really shouldn't be about whether fsu will stop Auburn's read option. They won't. I have little doubt both teams will have over 400 yards of offense. Who commits turnovers? Who has to settle for the most field goals? I see both teams scoring 30+ points.